RE: Transperancy Spray?

2001-10-31 Thread Reese
At 06:19 AM 10/31/01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>I think freon is incredibly inert, that's why it's used. >> >> Heat freon up enough, it turns into phosgene gas (as it breaks down >> into simpler components). The CBR types call that Blood Agent. >> Just think of how carbon monoxide sup

Re: what kind of bomb?

2001-10-31 Thread FogStorm
On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 08:39 PM, FogStorm wrote: > On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 09:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> cpaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >>> Witnesses also said they saw a U.S. plane drop a bomb Tuesday >>> at the Bagram front lines, about 25 miles north of K

Re: [The Star Article] Canadian lawyers asked to fink on clients (fwd)

2001-10-31 Thread Tim May
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Re: what kind of bomb?

2001-10-31 Thread FogStorm
On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 09:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > cpaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >> Witnesses also said they saw a U.S. plane drop a bomb Tuesday >> at the Bagram front lines, about 25 miles north of Kabul, >> creating a mushroom cloud that billowed at least 1,000 feet >

Re: [The Star Article] Canadian lawyers asked to fink on clients (fwd)

2001-10-31 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
The next time you plunk down money for a lawyer, you might also be hiring the government's chief witness against you. enjoy On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thought you might be interested in this one. > >http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Arti

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Re: FBI MAS

2001-10-31 Thread Anonymous User
>Anybody have information about this FBI operation, >which siphoned about 1/5 of Cryptome this AM: So now the evidence has been collected. I wonder if the thugs feel strong enough now to do away with almost all dissent. The whipped up sheeple opinion is at the peak. It's not getting any higher.

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2001-10-31 Thread Khoder bin Hakkin
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Re: Quarantines, hospital seizures: Powergrab 2001

2001-10-31 Thread Declan McCullagh
It would be interesting to compare the provisions you describe in this bill (I have not yet read it) with existing powers that federal and state authorities have when an "emergency" is declared. Seems to me that much if this authority is already on the books. -Declan On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 09:

Re: Osama bin Laden as SF fan

2001-10-31 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 11:07 AM, Tim May wrote: > > for base/foundation, so the cognates amongst the Semitic languages are > obvious. I checked for Hebrew cognates, but am not yet convinced the > connection is obvious. > > (I don't have the American Heritage Dictionary of Semitic Roots

NOTAM: GA prohibited w/in 10 miles of nuke plants

2001-10-31 Thread Anonymous
>Sounds like the feds are treating the current "credible threat" as broad >and shutting down all options. Anyone care to posit a scenario in which >GA could threaten a nuke? The GA plane has a smoke machine and draws special doodles in the sky, which are seen by the plant operator and she gets

Re: Osama bin Laden as SF fan

2001-10-31 Thread Duncan Frissell
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Ken Brown wrote: > Ken McLeod posted the following to rec.arts.sf.fandom > > > Forwarded with permission from China Mieville, fantasy writer > > and student of international relations: > > >> --- Forwarded message follows --- > > >> My supervisor, an expert in the Mid

Re: FBI MAS

2001-10-31 Thread Faustine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John wrote: >Anybody have information about this FBI operation, >which siphoned about 1/5 of Cryptome this AM: Monitoring Automated Systems http://www.monauto.com/default1.asp "MAS develops and integrates security monitoring and business software

Re: Osama bin Laden as SF fan

2001-10-31 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, October 31, 2001, at 09:53 AM, Ken Brown wrote: > Ken McLeod posted the following to rec.arts.sf.fandom > >> Forwarded with permission from China Mieville, fantasy writer >> and student of international relations: > >>> --- Forwarded message follows --- > >>> My supervisor,

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Re: FBI MAS

2001-10-31 Thread mmotyka
OK. Yer an equal opportunity provider. Bandwidth costs money, yes? Ask the botniks to register and send them automated tgz update packages monthly, weekly, whatever. Paid protection might be cheaper than being robbed. Do you accept anonymous donations?

Osama bin Laden as SF fan

2001-10-31 Thread Ken Brown
Ken McLeod posted the following to rec.arts.sf.fandom > Forwarded with permission from China Mieville, fantasy writer > and student of international relations: >> --- Forwarded message follows --- >> My supervisor, an expert in the Middle East, told me about a >> rumour circulating abo

Re: NOTAM: GA prohibited w/in 10 miles of nuke plants

2001-10-31 Thread Ken Brown
"Karsten M. Self" wrote: [...] > Sounds like the feds are treating the current "credible threat" as broad > and shutting down all options. Anyone care to posit a scenario in which > GA could threaten a nuke? Yep. Mr. Usr Bin Local records a video saying that a light aircraft that hits the at

Re: FBI MAS

2001-10-31 Thread John Young
>Any sense in blacklisting IP ranges and refusing connections? No, we still abide the ground rules here, nobody is forbidden, not TLAs not the commies not the loonies not the ethnics not the school of americans and the iras and jihadists, all mars' angels get to eat the poison pills, except mind

Re: FBI MAS

2001-10-31 Thread mmotyka
Any sense in blacklisting IP ranges and refusing connections?

Re: what kind of bomb?

2001-10-31 Thread mmotyka
cpaul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >Witnesses also said they saw a U.S. plane drop a bomb Tuesday >at the Bagram front lines, about 25 miles north of Kabul, >creating a mushroom cloud that billowed at least 1,000 feet >into the air. > > >http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011030/ts/attacks_afghanist

Re: NOTAM: GA prohibited w/in 10 miles of nuke plants

2001-10-31 Thread Khoder bin Hakkin
Quoth John Young: >>Sure. Don't go for the hard-headed containment structure, knock out the soft-shelled control facility which regulates cooling pumps. The reactor will do the rest just as effectively as planes weakened the towers so they would self-destruct. ... Nuclear power plants are likely

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2001-10-31 Thread Khoder bin Hakkin
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Re: FBI MAS

2001-10-31 Thread Gabriel Rocha
On Wed, Oct 31, at 09:57AM, John Young wrote: | Mothermary, there's nothing like logs to boost paranoia, and | depression that nobody gives a FF except rampaging | bots endlessly shredding your shaggers and OBB. In my time I have found that keeping logs of internet activities is

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Re: Quarantines, hospital seizures: Powergrab 2001

2001-10-31 Thread Greg Broiles
At 01:13 PM 10/30/2001 -0800, Khoder bin Hakkin wrote: > Drafted at the behest of the Department of Health and Human >Services (news - web > sites) and with the help of the Centers for Disease Control and >Prevention (news - > web sites), the new law proposes ways to legal

Re: Quarantines, hospital seizures: Powergrab 2001

2001-10-31 Thread Greg Broiles
At 01:13 PM 10/30/2001 -0800, Khoder bin Hakkin wrote: > Drafted at the behest of the Department of Health and Human >Services (news - web > sites) and with the help of the Centers for Disease Control and >Prevention (news - > web sites), the new law proposes ways to legal

Re: FBI MAS

2001-10-31 Thread Peter Wayner
>A few machines come every day to get the latest contents >but no files. I assume those are distributed within networks >or archived or added to the evidence pile. One of MPAA's >law firms does that, and the old loyal customer, NSA >at ncsc.mil. And EOP, DoJ, the Senate, US Courts, jeez, >don't th

Re: FBI MAS

2001-10-31 Thread John Young
>How many mirrors do you have John? Don't know for sure, several recent ones are listed on the home page. Older ones, and the covert, are not easily found, but I see a hit from them now and then or a bit gulp of update. A few machines come every day to get the latest contents but no files. I as

RE: Transperancy Spray?

2001-10-31 Thread georgemw
On 30 Oct 2001, at 16:29, Reese wrote: > At 04:52 PM 10/30/01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >On 30 Oct 2001, at 14:51, Sandy Sandfort wrote: > > > >> Mike [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > >> > >> > I would bet that there is SOMETHING that > >> > is dissolved by liquid freon. Just mark > >> > you

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Re: FBI MAS

2001-10-31 Thread Gabriel Rocha
On Wed, Oct 31, at 06:52AM, John Young wrote: | Anybody have information about this FBI operation, | which siphoned about 1/5 of Cryptome this AM: | | IP address: 65.207.53.168 | | MAS (NETBLK-UU-65-207-53) | 935 Pennsylvania Ave NW | Washington, D

FBI MAS

2001-10-31 Thread John Young
Anybody have information about this FBI operation, which siphoned about 1/5 of Cryptome this AM: IP address: 65.207.53.168 MAS (NETBLK-UU-65-207-53) 935 Pennsylvania Ave NW Washington, DC 20535 US Netname: UU-65-207-53 Netblock: 65.207.53.

what kind of bomb?

2001-10-31 Thread cpaul
Witnesses also said they saw a U.S. plane drop a bomb Tuesday at the Bagram front lines, about 25 miles north of Kabul, creating a mushroom cloud that billowed at least 1,000 feet into the air. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011030/ts/attacks_afghanistan_549.html