Re: You bought something. Nobody knows what it was.

2001-11-18 Thread Marcel Popescu
From: "Anonymous Coredump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > You pays your money and you gets your choice of one, count em, (1) > > RSA decryption. Blind it and Seller can't tell what you're buyin. Discussed in "Applied Cryptography". Mark

Re: Crypto Terrorists to be Tried in Military Tribunal

2001-11-18 Thread Greg Broiles
At 11:14 PM 11/18/2001 -0500, Peter Capelli wrote: >Okay, here's a question from a 'stupid fuck'; Did *you* read the order? >Check out Section 7 (a) (3): > >Sec. 7. Relationship to Other Law and Forums. > >(a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to -- > >(1) authorize the disclosure of sta

Re: Pricing spare resources and options?

2001-11-18 Thread Greg Broiles
At 01:44 PM 11/18/2001 -0500, dmolnar wrote: >The recent comments on Mojo Nation prompted me to look at their site >again. I don't see much guidance on how to set prices for network >services. There's a mention someplace that business customers will build >pricing schemes on top of Mojo Nation, b

You bought something. Nobody knows what it was.

2001-11-18 Thread Anonymous Coredump
Seen on another list: > Saw a paper the other day by some Chinese dudes. Talked about how to sell > dox online so that the seller don't know what the buyer's gettin, see? > > All the dox are on the net for every Tom Harry Dick to look at. But, > the catch is they're RSA encrypted to Mr. Seller,

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 05:16:54PM -0500, Faustine wrote: > On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely do you think it is that these > problems will be resolved in, say, the next decade? Where are the > people most likely to make it happen? Fascinating stuff. Huh? In my message, to which you replied, I s

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread CDR Anonymizer
At 08:29 PM 11/18/01 -0800, CDR Anonymizer wrote: >-- >James A. Donald: >> > That is a really dumb idea. >> > >> > It took governments a generation and the vigorous and >> > frequent application of bayonets and batons to render their >> > money independent of precious metals. > >Anonymous: >>

Re: Crypto Terrorists to be Tried in Military Tribunal

2001-11-18 Thread Declan McCullagh
I think it's unclear, perhaps even intentionally ambiguous. One way of reading the executive order (that section of it, at least) is that it preserves the ability of the DoD to try members of the military in a different form of tribunal that might have more procedural safeguards, and that it pres

Re: De-Macrovisioning Hardware

2001-11-18 Thread mean-green
At 10:31 PM 11/18/2001 +0100, Anonymous wrote: >A number of people are selling the "Sima SED-CM" for anywhere between $25 and $60, which will supposedly remove Level 1 Macrovision. Sima makes a more pricey device, the "Color Corrector" which claims it will remove both level 1 and Level 2. >Does

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread jamesd
-- On 18 Nov 2001, at 14:17, Neil Johnson wrote: > > > It would seem to me that digital cash would be better off > > > not being tied either of these trust systems, but somehow > > > develop it's own. James A. Donald: > > That is a really dumb idea. > > > > It took governments a generation an

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread CDR Anonymizer
At 05:11 PM 11/18/01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On 18 Nov 2001, at 14:17, Neil Johnson wrote: >> So how do we develop this trust for digital cash ? >> >> Digicash tried tying back to the trust of existing money >> systems (unsuccessfully). >> >> E-gold, digi-gold, etc. are trying to tie bac

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread jamesd
-- On 18 Nov 2001, at 14:17, Neil Johnson wrote: > So how do we develop this trust for digital cash ? > > Digicash tried tying back to the trust of existing money > systems (unsuccessfully). > > E-gold, digi-gold, etc. are trying to tie back to the trust > of scarce materials (the jury's stil

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Re: Cookbooks and Pigs (Was Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device)

2001-11-18 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, November 18, 2001, at 01:41 PM, Anonymous wrote: > Tim wrote: > >> The bomb instructions Joe provided are as accurate as most recipes in >> "The Anarchist Cookbook." >> >> (A book my local Sheriff's Department banned in 1970.) > > How did the Sheriff's Department manage to do this? >

RE: Monkeywrenching airport security

2001-11-18 Thread David Honig
At 11:51 AM 11/18/01 +0100, Eugene Leitl wrote: >> >gardeners have gotten hassled and delayed because of trace amounts of >> >ammonia-based fertilizers on their person and effects. If you plan to fly, > >Salts are different from traces of uncombusted nitrocellulose deposited on >any surface of a

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread Faustine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 declan wrote: >Not so with digital cash. It also suffers from deployment problems, of >course, but far more substantial regulatory ones. You need two >consenting users -- and a tie-in to the banking system (preferable) or >at least some exchange of v

Re: Cypherpunk failures

2001-11-18 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 01:34 PM 11/18/01 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: >On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 08:03:49PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> So though the cypherpunks list is moribund, and cypherpunks >> are no longer fashionable, > >True. The DC cypherpunks are thinking of changing their name to something >more cu

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, November 18, 2001, at 01:53 PM, Faustine wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Faustine wrote: > Tim wrote: > >> Getting away fron digital cash for a moment, If you'd care to point me >> to any examples of crypto companies really focused and committed to >> deve

Reputations for MIX Cascades

2001-11-18 Thread dmolnar
Roger Dingledine and Paul Syverson have a recent paper on reputations for MIX cascades which may be of interest, given previous discussions on how to build more reliable remailers. See it at http://www.freehaven.net/doc/casc-rep/casc-rep.ps http://www.freehaven.net/doc/casc-rep/casc-rep.pdf slid

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread Faustine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Faustine wrote: Tim wrote: > Getting away fron digital cash for a moment, If you'd care to point me > to any examples of crypto companies really focused and committed to developing > applications that are commercially appealing to Joe Sixpack AOLuse

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 09:59 PM 11/17/01 -0800, Tim May wrote: > >As for me, I'm a neo-Calvinist Nietzscheian. It is of little concern to >me whether crypto is dumbed-down to the point where Mr. Rogers uses it. Mr Rodgers is mourning the death of Mr. McFeely the speedy delivery man who succumbed to anthrax... Th

Cookbooks and Pigs (Was Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device)

2001-11-18 Thread Anonymous
Tim wrote: > The bomb instructions Joe provided are as accurate as most recipes in > "The Anarchist Cookbook." > > (A book my local Sheriff's Department banned in 1970.) How did the Sheriff's Department manage to do this?

De-Macrovisioning Hardware

2001-11-18 Thread Anonymous
After learning that computer OEMs cannot obtain a license to play DVDs on a system with a "tv out" port unless the graphics card supports (and respects) Macrovision, I am in the market for some anti-Macrovision hardware. A number of people are selling the "Sima SED-CM" for anywhere between $25 an

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Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread Neil Johnson
Economics 101 for those who don't/won't check the archives: The fundamental problem is Trust. The basic concept of money is to act as a proxy for the exchange of goods and services. Say a farmer needs medical attention and a doctor wants pork chops. Without "money" the farmer would have to pay

Pricing Mojo, Integrating PGP, TAZ, and D.C. Cypherpunks

2001-11-18 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, November 18, 2001, at 10:44 AM, dmolnar wrote: > Hey, > > The recent comments on Mojo Nation prompted me to look at their site > again. I don't see much guidance on how to set prices for network > services. There's a mention someplace that business customers will build > pricing scheme

Re: Pricing spare resources and options?

2001-11-18 Thread Nomen Nescio
David Molnar writes: > The recent comments on Mojo Nation prompted me to look at their site > again. I don't see much guidance on how to set prices for network > services. There's a mention someplace that business customers will build > pricing schemes on top of Mojo Nation, but not much indicatio

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Pricing spare resources and options?

2001-11-18 Thread dmolnar
Hey, The recent comments on Mojo Nation prompted me to look at their site again. I don't see much guidance on how to set prices for network services. There's a mention someplace that business customers will build pricing schemes on top of Mojo Nation, but not much indication of what these schemes

Re: Cypherpunk failures

2001-11-18 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 08:03:49PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So though the cypherpunks list is moribund, and cypherpunks > are no longer fashionable, True. The DC cypherpunks are thinking of changing their name to something more cuddly. (At least that's according to discussions on the loc

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 11:25:19PM -0500, Faustine wrote: > Getting away fron digital cash for a moment, If you'd care to point me to any > examples of crypto companies really focused and committed to developing > applications that are commercially appealing to Joe Sixpack AOLuser, I'd be > intere

NetCamo project

2001-11-18 Thread dmolnar
http://netcamo.cs.tamu.edu/ "Within the NetCamo ( Network Camouflaging ) project, we study how to prevent traffic analysis in mission-critical QoS-guaranteed networks." Some of the people from this project gave a talk at the USENIX Security works-in-progress session on "a quantitative analysis o

Re: The Crypto Winter

2001-11-18 Thread dmolnar
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote: > and the security departments of leading dot com and Net companies. Even > Mojo Nation, which had about half a dozen list members in it--not much > being heard from it now. I don't know about what's happening to Mojo Nation exactly, but it seemed to me that

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Re: Cypherpunk failures

2001-11-18 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > This is actually partly true -- even Freenet, perhaps the most > promising cypherpunkly project with live code right now, barely gets a > mention on the list. Mojonation is ailing, too. Barely a trickle of few posts/week on all mojo lists taken toge

RE: Monkeywrenching airport security

2001-11-18 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, David Honig wrote: > At 10:57 AM 11/17/01 -0800, Sandy Sandfort wrote: > >Airport chemical "sniffers" apparently look for the signature of nitrogen > >compounds, not "explosives," per se. I've often wondered how many weekend Unless they look for nitrogen in bulk of the spec

Re: IP conference: copyright law has gone too far

2001-11-18 Thread Marcel Popescu
From: "Steve Schear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > IP conference: copyright law has gone too far > The recording industry and the Business Software Alliance squared off > against the Electronic Frontier Foundation and US Rep. Rick Boucher > Wednesday in a debate over laws such as the Digital Millennium C

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