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Jim wrote:
>C-A-C-L's would let people die from thirst before interfering in a 'free
>market'. Others would say screw the market and give that man a drink.
I'd give that man a drink out of my last canteen--but I sure as hell wouldn't
force anyone
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And you might mention for the nuclearly impaired that the fuel used in
RTGs is not the same as the fissionables used in reactors and weapons.
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Eric Cordian wrote:
>
> Peter Trei wrote:
>
> > I have a vague memory of seeing a photo of a ?3 inch? ball of Pu (isotopic
> > compositi
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Eric wrote:
>> I think the real flaw there--what keeps
>> me so uncomforable with it (even though my gut tells me it's a logical
>> conclusion)--is reflected in the sheer number of people I've seen change
>>their minds once they found out a little m
> Yes, but what this thread has ignored is that gold (and other
> densely precious things) were valued *in and of themselves* and so
> using them as money was not symbolic. You traded your goat
> for a goat's worth of gold; if trust evaporated overnight
> the gold is still worth something. Simi
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, David Honig wrote:
> At 03:15 PM 11/17/01 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> >on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:36:32PM -0800, alphabeta121
> >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >> what does C-A-C-L stand for?
> >
> >Crypto-Anarcho Capitalist Libertarian, per archives. Shorthand for a
> >c
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, alphabeta121 wrote:
> what does C-A-C-L stand for?
Crypto-Anarcho-Capitalist-Libertarian
It's the recognition that these approaches to social engineering are
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> "In and of itself" is a very vague and intangible concept.
>
> --Tim May
> "As my father told me long ago, the objective is not to convince someone
> with your arguments but to provide the arguments with which he later
> convinces himself." -- David Friedman
Quoting Jews again, Tim?
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On 19 Nov 2001, at 17:40, Tim May wrote:
> On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 05:03 PM, David Honig wrote:
> >
> > Yes, but what this thread has ignored is that gold (and other
> > densely precious things) were valued *in and of themselves* and so
> > using them as money was not symbolic. You trad
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:15:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i must admit i'm warming up to Tim May's tall pipe means of attaining
> > critical mass - much easier then playing with explosive and timing
> > devices - my only question is do o
Faustine writes:
> Right. I suppose there's not much that can be done for people who expect
> "security" to be handed down to them from the sky on a silver
> platter. I'm sure it couldn't be more obvious to most here that if you
> don't put out the effort to take responsibility for your own secur
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On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 05:03 PM, David Honig wrote:
>
> Yes, but what this thread has ignored is that gold (and other
> densely precious things) were valued *in and of themselves* and so
> using them as money was not symbolic. You traded your goat
> for a goat's worth of gold; if trust
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Tim wrote:
>Companies have been trying to convince the home computer user that they
>should be encrypting for years. Doesn't work. And for not very
>surprising reasons. Same thing seen in the home security business,
>backups, etc.
>(The average us
At 01:27 AM 11/20/01 +0200, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>It's amazing how many people assert this, even though it's clearly
>>wrong. A gold standard does NOT mean that the amount of currency in
>>circulation equals the amount of gold in the vaults, it mea
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On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 02:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>
> 1) I thought spherical shells were the usual geometry?
>
>
Define "usual"? And explain why that matters.
We are discussing low-yield, non-optimized, basement nukes. Little Boy
was a gun device, firing a wedge (of some fr
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> Won't work on Berkeley, though. The City Council declared Berkeley a
> "Nuclear Free Zone." Guess that leaves only conventional weapons.
>
>
> S a n d y
>
Those restrictions usually also prohibit the *design* of nuclear weapons
(don't know if Berze
"Roy M. Silvernail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>On 19 Nov 2001, at 19:43, Ken Brown wrote:
>
>> Much too 1990s. These times suit more loyal-sounding names.
>> "Programmers Rally Against Terrorism"?
>
>I wonder how many non-Brits will get this...
>
>
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Ken Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
1) I thought spherical shells were the usual geometry?
2) It sure as hell looks like it's time to start creating private
archives of public data and seeing to it that the data are propagated.
Sneakernet revisited only now with CD's instead of floppies.
>
>S
on Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:14:01AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On 19 Nov 2001, at 2:54, Neil Johnson wrote:
>
> > There are still a lot people that believe the U.S. should return to
> > the "Gold Standard" meaning the amount of money in circulation
> > should equal the
On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 12:39 PM, Ken Brown wrote:
> Tim May wrote:
>
>> So, here's the punchline,
>>
>> Regardless of companies trying to make money, not be run out of
>> business
>> by money laundering laws, trying to be banker- and Homeland
>> Fascism-friendly, IS THERE A FUNDAMENTAL
On 19 Nov 2001, at 19:43, Ken Brown wrote:
> Much too 1990s. These times suit more loyal-sounding names.
> "Programmers Rally Against Terrorism"?
I wonder how many non-Brits will get this...
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Ken Brown quoted Tim May (I think) saying:
> > A way too expensive way to spread mere
> > radiological terror, which could be done
> > much more cheaply and easily by taking
> > spent fuel rods and blowing them up, or
> > just by grinding up spent fuel rods or
> > other nuclear waste and then dum
Tim May wrote:
[...]
> As I made clear in my post, it's not _my_ idea. It's one of the standard
> "basement nuke" proposed designs.
Same here of course.
[...]
>
> I will mention that Ken Brown's "many pieces along the length of the
> pipe" is the worst way to do this: it buys nothing over th
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On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 12:37 PM, Tim May wrote:
>
> By the way, some calculations are still needed (by basement nuke
> designers) on what the closing speed needs to be to get a reasonable
> chain reaction yield. The rough calculations I saw said that a fall
> from 40 feet, with good t
On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 12:36 PM, Faustine wrote:
> But then, that sounds suspiciously resonant with "if they're too lazy
> or stupid
> to get it, then screw em", doesn't it. I think the real flaw
> there--what keeps
> me so uncomforable with it (even though my gut tells me it's a logic
Tim May wrote:
> So, here's the punchline,
>
> Regardless of companies trying to make money, not be run out of business
> by money laundering laws, trying to be banker- and Homeland
> Fascism-friendly, IS THERE A FUNDAMENTAL REASON WHY TWO-WAY
> UNTRACEABILITY IS NOT "POSSIBLE."
>
> I believe c
On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 12:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> exactly right Ken .. as i said before to Tim May - propaganda is the
> key. Example - antrax theatre.
>
> i must admit i'm warming up to Tim May's tall pipe means of attaining
> critical mass - much easier then playing with ex
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Tim wrote:
>Companies have been trying to convince the home computer user that they
>should be encrypting for years. Doesn't work. And for not very
>surprising reasons. Same thing seen in the home security business,
>backups, etc.
>(The average us
>> >True. The DC cypherpunks are thinking of changing their name to
>> something
>> >more cuddly.
>>
>> Harmless Little Nerds?
>> Cryptotubbies?
>> Happy Fun Infosec Society?
>
>Much too 1990s. These times suit more loyal-sounding names. "Programmers
>Rally Against Terrorism"?
>
Programmer's Asso
exactly right Ken .. as i said before to Tim May - propaganda is the
key. Example - antrax theatre.
i must admit i'm warming up to Tim May's tall pipe means of attaining
critical mass - much easier then playing with explosive and timing
devices - my only question is do our experts see a problem
A propaganda weapon doesn't have to work, it just has to present a
threat of working to people who may or may not understand how it is
meant to work. It doesn't have to be a credible military weapon. A
kamikaze airliner isn't a credible *military* weapon against anyone who
can afford artillery. Th
On Monday, November 19, 2001, at 10:29 AM, Adam Shostack wrote:
> | 6. The failure to get true digital money. Call it what you like,
> | "digital cash" or "ecash" or even one of Hettinga's pet names, but the
> | fact is that for both political and technical reasons we don't have
> | digital cash.
"!Dr. Joe Baptista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>
>
Where did this bullshit come from? Did someone take a ravioli recipe and
do some search and replace?
Is Dr. Joe Baptista really Jim Choate in disguise?
My favorite short quote :
"The trick is to bring the U-235 masses together at the same tim
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 10:00:05AM -0800, Tim May wrote:
| Also, I plan to reply only to folks who make a serious effort to debate.
ok, so this is just some nits, because your analysis is generally good.
| contributors have arrived. We had a guy from Germany, whose name I have
| spaced out on,
On 19 Nov 2001, at 2:54, Neil Johnson wrote:
> There are still a lot people that believe the U.S. should return to the
> "Gold Standard" meaning the amount of money in circulation should equal the
> amount of gold held by the U.S. government. That's what Fort Knox was
> originally for.
>
It's
On 18 Nov 2001, at 20:37, CDR Anonymizer wrote:
> >Anonymous:
> >> but why did governments engage in the vigorous and frequent
> >> application of bayonets and batons to render their money
> >> independent of precious metals?
> >
> >Because they could.
>
> This goes beyond gratuitous demonstrat
On 18 Nov 2001, at 22:30, Greg Broiles wrote:
> It seems like there ought to be an interesting market here, but I know and
> worked with several people (with good financial backgrounds) who flogged
> this for awhile and never got anywhere. I guess a big part of the problem
> is that there's s
I've been looking at the archives every once in a while for the last few
months. The archives have their feet in the sky, the last few days, so I
decided to lurk for real.
LNE's nice and clean, so far.
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Steve Schear posted:
>
> Who Authorized This?
> Andrew Sullivan, Forbes ASAP, 12.03.01
[...]
> Moreover, the power and status of rulers derived from their own perfection.
> Kings and queens commanded artists to portray them as demi-gods. Dissenters
> were not merely troublemakers; they were dir
> [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
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> On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
>
> > detonation. You can actually hold a subcritical mass of plutonium in
> > your hand for awhile - I'm told it feels warm. Can't say I've tried it
> > myself.
>
> hold on mr. expert.
> you ho
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Well (jamesd's "because they can" comment not withstanding) the stated
reason for uncoupling money from precious metal was to allow the government
greater flexibility in controlling the supply of money. Supposedly they
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