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From: Tim May [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 1:13 PM
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Subject: Antivirus software will ignore FBI spyware: solutions
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snoopware that NAI/McAfee is now a
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Eric Murray wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 05:12:38PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I gave a little bit of thought about what an encrypted email client
> > should look like for joe sixpack to use. Here's how the DEFAULT
> > behavior would work:
> >
> > When you in
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> Are you saying that governments are providing a valuable service by propping up
> arbitrary prohibitions and thus establish a value system against which we can
> bang our heads ?
You misrepresent, governments don't (in general) make 'arbitrary
prohibit
On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Gabriel Rocha wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 25, at 03:05PM, Tim May wrote
> | Thus, what is the "reputation of the dollar"? Is it because of foolproof
> | anti-forgery measures? Is it because of the laws of the U.S.? Etc.?
> |
> | No, it is a kind of collective halluc
On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote:
> For many years some of us have argued strongly for "reputation" as a
> core concept. Someone, perhaps even one of our own, even coined the
> phrase "reputation capital."
And for as many years many of us have seen that it's not as useful as it
would first
They did no such thing. In order for 'reputation' to happen in the
context of human society one would have to prove that squirrels have a
sense of 'I'. I'll leave the current research and a few minutes of
personal time with a rodent speak for that aspect.
Further, correlation <> reputation.
For
You should spend some time reading recent work on Chimp and Bonobo packs
and the inter-pack shenanigans the females go through (as well as the
mapping to human behaviour).
On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote:
> On a long road trip one night, I heard an extremely interesting long
> di
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, David Honig wrote:
> At 07:56 PM 11/20/01 -0800, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> >> Capitalism is a natural result of free people.
> >
> >The ultimate argument. Like in "natural" and "unnatural" sex
>
> Hardly dogma; look at history.
Yes, look at history. Many if not most re
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Faustine wrote:
> Not all women are golddiggers.
They're called 'old maids'. ALL women who are interested in a
'relationship' are 'golddiggers' in the sense they want to 'change' the
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, David Honig wrote:
> At 09:19 PM 11/19/01 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
> >C-A-C-L's would let people die from thirst before interfering in a 'free
> >market'. Others would say screw the market and give that man a drink.
>
> No, a libertarian would say "screw anyone who'd initia
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Declan wrote:
> Sure, one can say: let's just have a complicated reputation space
> (think an array of arrays) for each one of these characteristics. To
> use a silly example:
> * truthtelling [0-255]
> * maturity [0-255]
> * morality [0-
On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Faustine wrote:
> >Then you have missed a fundamental aspect of human society and the
> >responbility (shades of Hayek) that goes along with it.
> >Hayek, von Mises, etc. would be disappointed.
>
>
> In a survival situation, nobody gives a crap about "human society", it's
On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 06:24 PM, Anonymous wrote:
> The following message by Lance Cottrell responding to John Young's
> accusations was sent to the cypherpunks list but apparently never
> appeared here.
>
>
>
> Da
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Anonymous wrote:
>Why, then, did you go ahead with publication?
I believe publishing is important for the advancement of the field.
If noone publishes, how will we learn from our mistakes? How will
people learn of the risks? Fortunately, we are in a privileged position.
The university has been
While it's of little help to M$ lusers, those of us in the *nix world can
use CDROM based filesystems for all but the user data. Yes, you may be
compromised, but it won't change any code (which is definitely *not* to
say that you aren't in danger from loss of passphrases, etc.) - at least
on sen
The following message by Lance Cottrell responding to John Young's
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appeared here.
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:15:16 -0800
To: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTE
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On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 11:49 AM, Sunder wrote:
> Great and wonderful except:
>
> 1. If such spyware has already been installed on your system you can't
> trust your os therefore:
>
On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 05:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 23 Nov 2001, at 19:13, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
>
>> Pecunia, the latin word for money, comes from the Etruscian pecu,
>> meaning, cow.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> RAH
>>
>
> And of course the German word for money is Gelt, which means
>
At 03:54 PM 11/26/01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On 25 Nov 2001, at 19:30, David Honig wrote:
>>
>> I recently posted how ground squirrels have rep cap.
>>
>
>It was interesting, but unless I misread it (a distinct possibility)
>the squirrels didn't really have something we'd call a reputat
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 05:12:38PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I gave a little bit of thought about what an encrypted email client
> should look like for joe sixpack to use. Here's how the DEFAULT
> behavior would work:
>
> When you install the software, it generates a public-private ke
On 25 Nov 2001, at 15:05, Tim May wrote:
> For many years some of us have argued strongly for "reputation" as a
> core concept. Someone, perhaps even one of our own, even coined the
> phrase "reputation capital."
>
> Reputation is an easily understandable concept which explains a lot
> about
On 23 Nov 2001, at 19:13, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
> Pecunia, the latin word for money, comes from the Etruscian pecu, meaning, cow.
>
> Cheers,
> RAH
>
And of course the German word for money is Gelt, which means
Gold.
Cows might have served well as currency for primitives like the
Etruscans
On 21 Nov 2001, at 21:00, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> David wrote:
>
> > Declan's comment on operating a physical
> > remailer for suitably valuable cargo,
> > plus some of Tim's recent comments about
> > integration, made me think of the
> > question in the subject line. So far
> >I see at least th
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On 21 Nov 2001, at 7:55, David Honig wrote:
> At 08:12 PM 11/20/01 -0500, Faustine wrote:
> >David wrote:
> >George wrote:
> >
> >>>5) Gold makes women sleep with you. I don't know why they
> >>>like it, but they do.
> >>They sleep with you because of your large cattle herd only they
> >>have ac
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 01:38:04PM -0800, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> According to a rebutal posted to Declan's list, McAfee.com (not the same
> as McAfee) is claiming that neither it nor Network Associates is assisting
> the FBI.
I admit I'm not familiar with the details of the corporate structure,
On 20 Nov 2001, at 22:54, Greg Broiles wrote:
> Very early in its lifetime, the Autonomous Zones/Mojo Nation people said
> that maybe Mojo would someday be exchangable with real cash, though the
> assumption was that during the early stages of software development, people
> were playing with
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> This has been a long debate among hard-core capitalist types who want
> to see everything have a price.
Ask them how much they'd charge to change their view...
> In a voluntary system for exchanging
> and publishing information, who should pay and wh
On 25 Nov 2001, at 19:30, David Honig wrote:
> At 03:05 PM 11/25/01 -0800, Tim May wrote:
> >For many years some of us have argued strongly for "reputation" as a
> >core concept. Someone, perhaps even one of our own, even coined the
> >phrase "reputation capital."
>
> I recently posted how gro
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Greg Broiles wrote:
> At 07:50 AM 11/12/2001 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
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Sunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>Great and wonderful except:
>
>1. If such spyware has already been installed on your system you can't
>trust your os therefore:
>[snip]
>
Yes - end of story.
>2. Any hard drive you can access so can they. "They" can patch your
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>[snip]
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> The page at Amazon. COM claims that the book in question will ship in
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Great and wonderful except:
1. If such spyware has already been installed on your system you can't
trust your os therefore:
a. It may use your OS to hide the key capture log, so you
won't be able to just watch files. Think of a kernel patch
that removes all referen
On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote:
> Some interesting tips (bottome of this message) for detecting FBI/SS
> snoopware that NAI/McAfee is now assisting the FBI in installing.
According to a rebutal posted to Declan's list, McAfee.com (not the same
as McAfee) is claiming that neither it nor Netwo
Some interesting tips (bottome of this message) for detecting FBI/SS
snoopware that NAI/McAfee is now assisting the FBI in installing.
I especially like the idea of "type hundreds of random key strokes and
see which files increase in size." (Or just look for any file size
changes, as most of us
Um, rethorical question, but from my very limited understanding of GPS,
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least "see s
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David Wagner writes:
> Given this risk, I've decided I cannot afford to continue to work in the
> area of copy protection as long as the uncertainty remains. And how in
> good conscience can I advise students working with me to work in this
> troubled area? I can't.
It's understandable that yo
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On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 07:28 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> Thanks, Tim, for posting an interesting essay. You say:
Thanks for the thanks. It's just a facet of what I've been thinking
about for a long time. I was bored so I just dashed off the piece, more
to help crystallize thoughts
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> To: 'Ryan Lackey'
> Subject: RE: "quitting havenco", not
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> From: R. A. Hettinga[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PRO
A few years ago I coined the term 'espionage-enabled' to
describe the 'International' version of Lotus Notes, with it's
blabbing 88 of 128 bits of encryption keys wrapped with an
NSA supplied public key.
I guess it's time to label another product.
Peter Trei
> --
> From: Jim Cho
Curious. 4-5 years ago Denning and another associate (I
forget who, it's in the archives :-) tried to market an authentication
scheme which purported to authenticate the location of a remote
user using GPS.
The idea was that the user's machine would pick up the
aggregate analog GPS signal avai
At 08:15 AM 11/26/2001 -0800, David Honig wrote, quoting me:
> >Reputation capital is more valuable a term when describing traits that
> >are less subjective. When dealing with an online ecash bank, you may
> >want truthfulness and reliability and good customer service (for
> >example), which are
At 10:28 AM 11/26/01 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>It seems to me that reputation capital is a term that has limited
>value when applied to something as subjective as the areas above:
>having an article published in the editorial pages of the Wall Street
>Journal (or the Journal of Socialist Doc
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