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JOHANNESBURG: HUMAN RIGHTS Feb 10 2003 Anti-Privatisation Activist Murdered, Attacks Continue Early in the morning of February 8 in Orange Farm (an informal settlement of 1.5 million people south of Johannesburg), 61 year-old Anti-Privatisation Forum APF) and Orange Farm Water Crisis Commit

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2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
Pledges to bits of cloth,Oh no,no,no thats just not us at all...a few letters down Mongo is spouting his statist garbage again,unquestioned and uncriticized.He is a total nationalist/statist fraud. If it's silly to pledge to a bit of cloth then why is it OK to practise parchment worship? Entirely

Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread jet
At 2:40 + 2003/02/12, lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote: >This one just won't die. People keep repeating it. Not much >different from Bush's "Time is running out" or "They hate us >because we love freedom". Would you like to show us the part of >the twelve page German law of March, 1938 that limits

Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread Sarad AV
hi, > I've not followed it closely, but Powell claims to > have a tape of > Bin Laden talking to "Iraqi's". Al Jazerra denys > it's real. This is > all from NPR. The game is afoot, let's see who can > deliver the bigger > lie. A tape as an evidence?Is a tape still considered as a valid piece o

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2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
When you get tired of discredited economics,bourgeois and patriarchal morality,parchment worship and (limited) statism... Left-Libertarian and Anarchist Criticism. Part of the "Critiques of Libertarianism" site. http://world.std.com/~mhuben/libindex.html Last updated 01/25/03. While most will not

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2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
What about a bomb shelter? Poverty stricken Britain distributed makeshift shelters during that war on terror.(WW2) Duck and Cover. Anti-govt paranoid survivalists could build their own like paranoid survivalist Leonard Lake. http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/ng/wil_2.html Wilse

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2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
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2003-02-11 Thread david
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Re: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

2003-02-11 Thread Jim Choate
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2003-02-11 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
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2003-02-11 Thread Steve Schear
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2003-02-11 Thread professor rat
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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-11 Thread Steve Mynott
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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

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Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread Tim May
My point was that a gun is an item for an emergency, not that everyone who does not now have one should buy one. Nor was my point addressing the issue of "what would happen if everyone tried to buy one suddenly!?" On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 12:43 PM, Trei, Peter wrote: Three points: 1.

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2003-02-11 Thread Trei, Peter
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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread Mike Rosing
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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

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On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 11:20 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: At 10:44 AM -0800 2/11/03, Tim May wrote: But in postmodern America mentioning guns is simply NOT DONE. Not even on the Fox Network, a more rightward network than the others. (Being right no longer means mentioning guns, as Ashcroft

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2003-02-11 Thread Tyler Durden
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Re: Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

2003-02-11 Thread Bill Frantz
At 10:44 AM -0800 2/11/03, Tim May wrote: >But in postmodern America mentioning guns is simply NOT DONE. Not even >on the Fox Network, a more rightward network than the others. (Being >right no longer means mentioning guns, as Ashcroft and Cheney and the >like would prefer that guns be in the hands

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Something conspicuously missing from the media survival lists

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Re: [IP] Open Source TCPA driver and white papers (fwd)

2003-02-11 Thread Mike Rosing
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Re: [IP] Open Source TCPA driver and white papers (fwd)

2003-02-11 Thread Michel Messerschmidt
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 02:32:13PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: > TPM != TCPA. TCPA with *user* control is good. The TPM is a mandatory part of the TCPA specifications. There will be no TCPA without TPM. And there will be no TCPA-enabled system with complete user control. Just look at the main spe

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RE: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

2003-02-11 Thread Vincent Penquerc'h
> While I have a lot of problem with the Pledge in any form, I think it > would be greatly improved if it were made to the Constitution, rather > than the flag. But wouldn't that hint to these children that they may actually have to think ? You don't have to think of a flag, you just react with (p

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