Re: [Users] Announce: FreeS/WAN Project Ending

2004-03-01 Thread Thomas Shaddack
:) > And sure, you use FreeS/WAN, and a company I used to work for used it > too. There are employees of many other companies who post to the > FreeS/WAN lists. But that's hardly representative of the majority of > companies. "Majority" as in number of employees, or as in count? Do mom-and-p

Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)

2004-03-01 Thread Nomen Nescio
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[Users] Announce: FreeS/WAN Project Ending

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Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II

2004-03-01 Thread Steve Furlong
On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 10:42, sunder wrote: > For example, one way to piss them off is to attempt to sing when you have > zero singing skills, and do it for hours on end, purposely off key, abusing > whatever instrument is available... Ugh. I did _not_ want to think about Kofi Annan yodeling for

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Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)

2004-03-01 Thread Justin
Major Variola (ret) (2004-03-01 18:01Z) wrote: > In order to avoid places with ears (and "homeless" people with > directional mics, see _Enemy of the State_) go to a park that you > haven't been to before. And perform the usual CI driving maneuvres > (see that Tomlinson book _The Big Breach_ for

Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)

2004-03-01 Thread Tyler Durden
Actually, I believe there was also a town in Poland with lots of odd letter combinations so that the Allies could help break German codes! (ie, by listening to Encrypted German communications about the bombing and it's location...) That's some interesting crap about playing Beavis and Butthead.

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Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)

2004-03-01 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II (opsec review)

2004-03-01 Thread Major Variola (ret)
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Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II

2004-03-01 Thread sunder
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RE: Gentlemen reading mail part II

2004-03-01 Thread Tyler Durden
Interesting. I guess my basic question is, is there a subset of counter-surveillance actions that can be taken that, while not ensuring secure communications, forces eavesdropping parties to take 'radical' measures in order to obtain the desired information? In other words, if they have to deplo

Re: Gentlemen reading mail part II

2004-03-01 Thread sunder
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