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2004-08-02 Thread Major Variola (ret)
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2004-08-02 Thread Major Variola (ret)
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2004-08-02 Thread Major Variola (ret)
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2004-08-02 Thread Peter Gutmann
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2004-08-02 Thread Peter Gutmann
Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Assuming I generate a key on a RSA smart card made by G&D, what kind of >prestige track do these people have? > >They seem to be pretty secretive, that's not a good sign. G&D produce (or help produce) things like banknotes and passports (and have been doin

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2004-08-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 03:36:45AM +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote: > G&D produce (or help produce) things like banknotes and passports (and have > been doing so for more than a century), the secrecy comes with the territory. I have no smart card background, unfortunately. I've heard G&D ignores reque

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Assuming I generate a key on a RSA smart card made by G&D, what kind of prestige track do these people have? They seem to be pretty secretive, that's not a good sign. -- Eugen* Leitl http://leitl.org";>leitl __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.6114