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Re: Tilting at the Ballot Box

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Quoting Eric Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 11:30:35AM -0400, Sunder wrote: Oops! Is that a cat exiting the bag? http://www.blackboxvoting.org/?q=node/view/78 Apparently so. Going to www.blackboxvoting.org now just gives: Don't break out the tinfoil hats yet.

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http://www.blackboxvoting.org/?q=node/view/77 is up Seems its due to an intentional, insider job, and not just as an engineering backdoor (c) Cisco Consumer Report: Part 2 - Problems with GEMS Central Tabulator Submitted by Bev Harris on Thu,

Re: Backdoor found in Diebold Voting Tabulators

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No problem accessing blackbox.org and Parts 1 and 2 of the file at 5:15 PM EST. Perhaps there are blocks on some incoming routes.

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Re: Tilting at the Ballot Box

2004-08-31 Thread Steve Schear
At 05:23 AM 8/30/2004, Justin wrote: On 2004-08-29T20:55:19-0700, Steve Schear wrote: I am not discussing presidential elections, this is another matter. Fine. Steve Schear wrote: The problem is that use of voting districts seems to have always resulted in gerrymandering in our political

Re: Tilting at the Ballot Box

2004-08-31 Thread Justin
On 2004-08-30T17:40:25-0700, Steve Schear wrote: At 05:23 AM 8/30/2004, Justin wrote: Are States geopolitical distortions as well? Are countries? If you're going to propose an alternate system, please clearly identify 1) the voting pool, and 2) what they're voting for. If the pool is

Re: Backdoor found in Diebold Voting Tabulators

2004-08-31 Thread Eric Murray
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 11:30:35AM -0400, Sunder wrote: Oops! Is that a cat exiting the bag? http://www.blackboxvoting.org/?q=node/view/78 Apparently so. Going to www.blackboxvoting.org now just gives: This Account Has Been Suspended Please contact the billing/support department as soon

Re: Backdoor found in Diebold Voting Tabulators

2004-08-31 Thread Sunder
A-Yup: We're sorry, the server is currently experiencing load issues. We apologize for the inconvenience. Please try again later. Got the above off this blog: http://www.boingboing.net/2004/08/31/diebold_voting_machi.html related links:

Re: Backdoor found in Diebold Voting Tabulators

2004-08-31 Thread sfurlong
Quoting Eric Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 11:30:35AM -0400, Sunder wrote: Oops! Is that a cat exiting the bag? http://www.blackboxvoting.org/?q=node/view/78 Apparently so. Going to www.blackboxvoting.org now just gives: Don't break out the tinfoil hats yet.

Re: Backdoor found in Diebold Voting Tabulators

2004-08-31 Thread John Young
No problem accessing blackbox.org and Parts 1 and 2 of the file at 5:15 PM EST. Perhaps there are blocks on some incoming routes.

Re: Backdoor found in Diebold Voting Tabulators

2004-08-31 Thread Major Variola (ret)
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/?q=node/view/77 is up Seems its due to an intentional, insider job, and not just as an engineering backdoor (c) Cisco Consumer Report: Part 2 - Problems with GEMS Central Tabulator Submitted by Bev Harris on Thu,

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2004-08-31 Thread Tyler Durden
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