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Re: Foreign Travelers Face Fingerprints and Jet Lag

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2004-10-03 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote: (1) There are also a number of non-rebar+concrete walls in place to keep US citizens from leaving; Please elaborate?

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2004-10-03 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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Re: Foreign Travelers Face Fingerprints and Jet Lag

2004-10-03 Thread Peter Gutmann
R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NEWARK, Sept. 30 - Laetitia Bohn walked into Newark Liberty International Airport on Thursday, dazed and sleepy after an eight-hour flight from Paris, and was jolted from her reverie when an immigration officer asked for her photograph and fingerprints

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Re: Foreign Travelers Face Fingerprints and Jet Lag

2004-10-03 Thread Steve Furlong
On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 05:18, Peter Gutmann wrote: The US now has the dubious distinction of being more obnoxious to get through the borders than the former East Germany (actually even without this measure, the checks had become at least as obnoxious as the East German ones). I wonder whether

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2004-10-03 Thread Peter Gutmann
Steve Furlong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 05:18, Peter Gutmann wrote: The US now has the dubious distinction of being more obnoxious to get through the borders than the former East Germany (actually even without this measure, the checks had become at least as obnoxious as the

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2004-10-03 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:37 AM 10/3/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: Unlike the TSA's recently announced program to use computer databases to scan for suspicious individuals whose names occur on passenger lists, SPOT is instead based squarely on the human element: the ability of TSA employees to identify suspicious

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t 11:22 PM 10/1/04 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: Questions were going through my mind. Would it hurt? What are the risks? What if I want to get it out? I ordered another drink. In the US its generally illegal to tattoo someone who is drunk. Comfortably numb In many ways this fellow is.

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Wherein the TSA thinks they can observe a lot by watching... Cheers, RAH --- http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0,8816,708924,00.html Saturday, Oct. 02, 2004 Spotting the Airline Terror Threat TIME exclusive: A new airport security system soon to be tested will rely on human judgment

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2004-10-03 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004, Steve Furlong wrote: On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 05:18, Peter Gutmann wrote: The US now has the dubious distinction of being more obnoxious to get through the borders than the former East Germany (actually even without this measure, the checks had become at least as

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2004-10-03 Thread Justin
On 2004-10-03T13:32:36-0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: The US *is* the Fourth Reich. Personally, I will take what comes. -- The old must give way to the new, falsehood must become exposed by truth, and truth, though fought, always in the end prevails. -- L. Ron Hubbard

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2004-10-03 Thread Bill Stewart
At 07:22 AM 10/3/2004, Steve Furlong wrote: On Sun, 2004-10-03 at 05:18, Peter Gutmann wrote: The US now has the dubious distinction of being more obnoxious to get through the borders than the former East Germany (actually even without this measure, the checks had become at least as obnoxious

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2004-10-03 Thread Dave Howe
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2004-10-03 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote: (1) There are also a number of non-rebar+concrete walls in place to keep US citizens from leaving; Please elaborate?