Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-22 Thread Bill Stewart
At 02:20 AM 10/21/2004, James A. Donald wrote: Doubtless there are some innocents in Gautenamo - but the usual reason they are there is for being foreigners in Afghanistan in the middle of a war with no adequate explanation. At 09:21 AM 10/22/2004, James A. Donald wrote: > J.A. Terranson > > No. W

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Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)

2004-10-22 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 22 Oct 2004 at 21:08, Tyler Durden wrote: > Taiwan is a particularly odd example...it definitely has > started forming a modern economy, but then again it had many > decades of oppression. It also had swiped billions upon > billions of dollars of gold and other substances that backed > th

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-22 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 22 Oct 2004 at 0:00, John Kelsey wrote: > All but one of the comments I read about involved a lot of > complaints about mistreatment, albeit often with the > admission that Gitmo was still better than being in an Afghan > prison. As a nitpick, though, it's not at all clear that most >

US enacts tough new security measures on visitors, foreign student pilots

2004-10-22 Thread R.A. Hettinga
Channelnewsasia.com Title : US enacts tough new security measures on visitors, foreign student pilots By : Date : 23 October 2004 0853 hrs (SST) URL : http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/113045

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-22 Thread John Kelsey
>From: "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Oct 20, 2004 3:10 PM >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Airport insanity >Lots of murderous terrorists have been released from Guatanamo, >and in the nearly all cases the most serious of their >complaints make it sound l

Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)

2004-10-22 Thread Tyler Durden
Well, yes there are counterexamples I guess. The kind of retardation I'm talking about seems to happen when the influence in through covert, destabilising channels. Taiwan is a particularly odd example...it definitely has started forming a modern economy, but then again it had many decades of o

Re: James A. Donald's insanity

2004-10-22 Thread Tyler Durden
Sunder wrote... "Come on, come on, out with it, say it, say it... That's right! *Ding* you're reality challenged." Well, perhaps, but Mr Donaldson's brain has been turned into a host/vector for a very powerful set of memes. In a sense, one can't blame him: He has an answer for everything, and h

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2004-10-22 Thread R.A. Hettinga
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2004-10-22 Thread R.A. Hettinga
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Re: Seld-defeating US foreign policy

2004-10-22 Thread James A. Donald
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Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)

2004-10-22 Thread John Kelsey
>From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Oct 19, 2004 10:23 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity) ... >In developing markets the US track record is terrible. The more we interfere >and set up puppet governments and petty

Re: James A. Donald's insanity

2004-10-22 Thread Sunder
Where did I write to you that it's horrible thing to lock people up in Gitmo, or that "we" (whomever that is) deserve to be attacked? Show me the email, with headers that says such a thing. Oh, wait, you can't, because I never wrote such. Let's see, so you've got lots of people questioning y

Re: Seld-defeating US foreign policy

2004-10-22 Thread Will Morton
James A. Donald wrote: But Khatami was knackered shortly after being elected, so any aid would be aiding the terrorists. We saw how well that worked in Fallujah and Sadr city. June 2001: Khatami re-elected A few months or weeks thereafter, Khatami knackered. Hmm. Either you

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Re: Seld-defeating US foreign policy

2004-10-22 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald wrote: > > How could the US have given him support, short of violent > > means, such as bombing Tehran, which he was reluctant to > > accept? Will Morton > Money. Push it through your favourite UN department. > Schools and hospitals == goodwill. But Khatami was

Re: Airport insanity

2004-10-22 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald wrote: > > We are under attack, and you are telling us to suck it up. J.A. Terranson > No. We are under attack by those DEFENDING THEMSELVES. All of the terrorists came from countries that were beneficiaries of an immense amount of US help. Saudi Arabia was certainly not

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Re: Seld-defeating US foreign policy

2004-10-22 Thread Will Morton
James A. Donald wrote: How could the US have given him support, short of violent means, such as bombing Tehran, which he was reluctant to accept? Money. Push it through your favourite UN department. Schools and hospitals == goodwill. You have this back to front. Khatami was marginalize

Dr. Hunter S. Thompson on the Election

2004-10-22 Thread Bill Stewart
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