On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 11:37:02PM -0400, Adam wrote:
> None-the-less, this has been one of the more inteteresting (and
> infuriating) threads in recent memory of Cypherpunks. I'm glad we're
> going through it with such vigor.
That thread bores me to tears.
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At 11:37 PM -0400 10/23/04, Adam wrote:
>You know, the more I read posts by Mr. Donald, the more I believe that
>he is quite possibly the most apt troll I have ever encountered.
No, that was Tim May. The world champion troll if there ever was one --
among other things. :-).
James is right, of cou
You know, the more I read posts by Mr. Donald, the more I believe that
he is quite possibly the most apt troll I have ever encountered. It is
quite apparent from reading his responses that he is obviously an
exceptionally intelligent (academically anyway) individual. I find it
hard to believe that
--
John Kelsey
> > > I'm still trying to understand the moral theory on which
> > > you differentiate hitting the two towers from the
> > > Oklaholma City bombing.
James A. Donald:
> > The pentagon did not have a branch office in the two
> > towers. BATF had an office in the Murrah building.
This brings up thoughts of prior debates on whether or not US citizens
are subject to the International Court. We (the US) are making a habit
of forcing our laws on other countries, but yet we are not subject to
the laws of an established INTERNATIONAL court; one who's laws are
created from a conse
At 01:03 PM 10/23/04 -0400, John Kelsey wrote:
>Blowing up a building full of random people because a few of them are
associated with >some action you really disagree with is just outside
the realm of the sort of moral decision I >can figure out. Just like
flying planes into buildings full of peop
The problem is, of course, that the US simply cannot keep their dicks
out of the affairs of other countries. We are obsessed with controlling
how the world develops, so as to guarantee to force countries to evolve
in such a way that is beneficial to the US. Such is an inevitable hazard
of becoming
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I am curious, Mr. Donald, how exactly you define the word "terrorist". I
request that your definition be generic; i.e. not a definition like
"anyone who attacks the US".
I'd be willing to bet that you cannot provide a clear generic definition
of "terrorist". Moreover, I can guarantee that you cann
There are all "givens" to the rest of us - I am trying to fit these
arguments into Donald's Reality Distortion Field.
//Alif
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:41:45 -0400
> From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> C
Let us not forget the more tangible 'value' in bombing the WTC and messing
up things downtown. First of all, the companies in the WTC were, to say the
least, impacted (actually, the company I work for lost 11 people and
relocated to NJ for about a year)hitting them (and their workers) was
p
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote:
> The Taliban were illegitimate, not on legal grounds, but
> because they were evil.
Using this line of "reasoning", Shrub is ripe for that overdue case of
high velocity lead poisoning.
> If someone was in the Taliban, then those threatened by the
>
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote:
> "James A. Donald"
> > > All of the terrorists came from countries that were
> > > beneficiaries of an immense amount of US help. Saudi
> > > Arabia was certainly not under attack. If they were
> > > Palestinians, and they hit the Pentagon but not th
There were several USG offices in the Twin Towers, some of
them intelligence. In addition, CIA was located in 7 WTC, along
with Secret Service and military offices. The military offices
were used as cover for the others. There was far more USG in
WTC than in Murrah, and the lesson learned in OKC
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On 22 Oct 2004 at 11:12, Bill Stewart wrote:
> James - Many, perhaps most, of the POWs at Gitmo weren't
> foreigners, they were Afghans. Many of the POWs at Gitmo
> probably were Al-Qaeda or other organized paramilitary
> groups. But many of them were described by the US
> propagandists as
--
"James A. Donald"
> > All of the terrorists came from countries that were
> > beneficiaries of an immense amount of US help. Saudi
> > Arabia was certainly not under attack. If they were
> > Palestinians, and they hit the Pentagon but not the two
> > towers, then they would be defendin
>From: "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Oct 22, 2004 12:21 PM
>To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Airport insanity
>All of the terrorists came from countries that were
>beneficiaries of an immense amount of US help. Saudi Arabia
>was certainly not under attack.
At 10:42 PM 10/22/04 -0400, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
> :
> US enacts tough new security measures on visitors, foreign student
pilots
Also unmentioned: all foreign flight schools are now heavily
bugged/surveilled
and swarthy and/or moslem students have that fact added to their
Permenant Record.
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