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One of the problems with the idea
Just a thought.
Wikipedia entries from anonymous sources, such as Tor, should have an
expiration date and revert back, unless a Wiki Admin or other trusted user
OKs the new entry.
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Tyler Durden wrote:
Actually, depending on your App, this would seem to be th very
OPPOSITE of a moot point.
-TD
Indeed!
I've been ignoring this list for a while, so sorry for the late posting.
I remember sometime in late 99, I had one of the early blackberry
pagers, the small ones that
At 9:43 PM -0400 9/28/05, sunder wrote:
Gee, I wonder why anyone would design a cell phone or pager to be able
to stay on after its battery is pulled out.
To protect whatever's in the then-volatile memory?
cf Pournelle on conspiracy and stupidity...
Are we just too paranoid?
See below.
Quoting Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
One way to build a psuedo-pseudonymous mechanism to hang off of Tor
that would be easy for the Wikipedians to deal with
would be to have a server that lets you connect to it using Tor,
log in using some authentication protocol or other,
then have it
At 05:37 PM 9/27/2005, lists wrote:
Tyler Durden wrote:
Sorry...I don't understand...why would psuedonymity services be provided
within Tor?
I find the concept of having both pseudonymous and anonymous traffic
through TOR quite interesting. In some cases, you really do wish to just
TOR
Just a thought.
Wikipedia entries from anonymous sources, such as Tor, should have an
expiration date and revert back, unless a Wiki Admin or other trusted user
OKs the new entry.
-TD
From: Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Pseudonymity
One way to build a psuedo-pseudonymous mechanism to hang off of Tor
that would be easy for the Wikipedians to deal with
would be to have a server that lets you connect to it using Tor,
log in using some authentication protocol or other,
then have it generate different outgoing addresses based on
No, this is important. If this isn't Cypherpunks material these days then
nothing is.
As for the Wikipedia folks, I can't imagine having a more intelligent batch
of people disagree. There's is a very practical matter: Reducing the
hassles, particularly when said hassles in general deteriorate
That's trivial: charge Tor-originated users for editing. That 0.0001% (all
three of them) that actually contributes to Wikipedia will be resourceful
enough to create untraceable payment accounts.
..and ensure that all future Tor-originated Wikipedia entries are about
anonymous payments and
Stupid assholes. Despite all the tech work in India going on, their military
apparently didn't realize that the world changed a long time ago (way before
Google). And if they can somehow block google, then I can merely purchase
the photos on the black market from a private satellite.
-TD
Sunder wrote:
I've been ignoring this list for a while, so sorry for the late
posting.
I remember sometime in late 99, I had one of the early blackberry
pagers, the small ones that ate a single AA battery which lasted about
a
week or so, and had email + a small web browser inside of it. It
But now we're back to the question: how can Tor be improved to deal with
this very serious and important problem? What are the steps that might
be taken, however imperfect, to reduce the amount of abuse coming from
Tor nodes?
That's trivial: charge Tor-originated users for editing. That
Oh...-that's- your point:
No, Wikipedia needs to realize that the IP address correlation they enjoy
outside of Tor is a happy accident, and that they should stop treating IP
addressess as user credentials. If they want credentials, they need to
implement them.
Well, is it reasonable to
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