Re: Senators from Utah being Southern

2003-06-20 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tim May wrote: Sorry, wrong again. Hatch is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, LDS, aka Mormon. Not an actual Christian church. Details available with Google. Basically, Jesus is no more a divine figure in LDS than in Islam. In fact, LDS and Islam share a number of th

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-02 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Damian Gerow wrote: I can only see two reasons for bombing with nuclear weapons: hate and stupidity. That being said, you'd have to *really* hate someone (or an entire country) to actually /use/ a nuclear weapon. That's nonsense. I can think of several entirely ethical uses of nuclear weapons,

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort?

2003-04-01 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Harmon Seaver wrote: But of course, the problems really pre-date all that, going back to when the christer Romans came and killed off the Druids and Wiccans who wouldn't bend the knee to conversion, as they did in the rest of Europe. You are completely and utterly wrong here. The Romans never

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort

2003-04-01 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Harmon Seaver wrote: And what makes you think things would have been any better in the absence of Christianity? You've heard of the Inquistion perhaps? The Catholic Church (which carried out the Inquisition, in cooperation with various governments) is not the whole of Christianity. There are

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-01 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
John Kelsey wrote: I think there was some complicated argument about the Taliban not being a legitimate government, What's a legitimate government? One with enough firepower to make its rule stick?

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-01 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
John Kelsey wrote: but it sure seems like it would be unhealthy to be one of the people shooting at the helicopters in that situation--like a bunch of people shooting at a lion with .22 pistols or something. Even if you eventually drive the helicopter off, it's going to leave a big pile of b

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort

2003-03-30 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Harmon Seaver wrote: Encouraging the imperial persecution of a religious minority? Well, it looks at this point that it would have been a reasonable trade-off, given the millions who have been tortured and murdered in Europe and the Americas since the Council of Nicea in 425 by the offspring of t

Re: Fw: Drunk driver detector that radios police

2003-03-10 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
david wrote: But you wouldn't mind if insurance companies required the device in order for you to get a policy (whether or not it called the police or just the insurance company) ? Right ? If I did mind, I'd just find a different insurance company. It's a little bit harder for me to say, "I don

Re: Give cheese to france?

2003-03-07 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Harmon Seaver wrote: The better way to frame the question: May a private property owner legally exclude people from it? Seems to me the answer should be, as a general rule, yes Absolutely yes, except for the fact that malls have invited the public in, Are you saying that if I invite people to a p

Re: Someone explain...Give cheese to france?

2003-03-07 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tyler Durden wrote: Let's take one of my famous extreme examples. Let's say a section of the New Jersey Turnpike gets turned over to a private company, which now owns and operates this section. So...now let's say I'm black. NO! Let's say I'm blond-haired and blue eyed, and the asshole in the s

Re: Ethnomathematics

2003-02-24 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Anonymous wrote: Ethnomathematics Good lord, this sounds like it was practically designed to sabotage the prospects for minorities to excel in mathematics, by encouraging them to waste their efforts on nonsense and useless trivia.

Re: One Man Against the World

2003-02-23 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
I've been reading DiLorenzo's book, _The Real Lincoln_, and this description is a pretty close fit to Abraham Lincoln, too. Eric Cordian wrote: --- A great, civilized nation democratically elected a fanatic demagogue, who preached war. Actually, he did not really receive the majority of votes, b

Re: Police state, plainclothes pigs need to die

2003-02-19 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Major Variola (ret) wrote: Girl driving in car is attacked by men in car and tries to escape the attack. The men are pigs (DEA, of course) out of uniform in unmarked car. She is shot in head. Pigs will get away with this, of course. She was Mexican, lower class, in Texas, so expendable. Donal

Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and "minorities"

2003-02-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tim May wrote: It goes beyond just the "black leaders" thing--it's also about "black pride." My eye-opening experience was my arrival in college (as Brits would say, "at university") in 1970. Well, this post explains a lot about Tim's attitude. Myself, I never ran into this kind of crap in

Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and "minorities"

2003-02-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tim May wrote: Swahili was the language they took to meet the minimal foreign language requirements. This sounds like the one worthwhile course in the bunch. One may learn a foreign language in order to be able to read important literary, historical, philosophical, or scientific works in oth

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-15 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tim May wrote: The negro is transforming himself into a gutter race. Which ones? I see a very different pattern of behavior in some other parts of the world.

Re: Gullible Journalists

2003-02-03 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tyler Durden wrote: "For some reason I've never been able to fathom, many journalists seem to be remarkably gullable, when they're told something from the right kind of source, especially a government agency or other official source." Chomsky (dig around on http://www.zmag.org/weluser.htm) and

Re: DoD badly protected web form lets "users" administer .mil domain names.

2003-01-25 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Care to register a .mil Web site of your own for free? The DoD has gone out of its way to make it a snap. [...] That's great. How about "kill-iraqis-regardless.mil" or "want-to-buy-some-oil-in-iraq.mil" or "we-lust-for-another-war.mil" I think your aim is off here. It's the politicians and pol

Re: Fresh Hell

2003-01-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Morlock Elloi wrote: Funny, but I can't seem to find the passage in the Bible where it talks about cloning. In fact, I can't find any passage that even remotely impinges on the subject [...] wasn't there something about exclusivity of conceiving without fucking ? As a former believer and stu

Re: Petro's catch-22 incorrect (Re: citizens can be named as enemy combatants)

2003-01-18 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
John Kelsey wrote: No policy toward anyone isn't possible once there's any kind of contact. There are terrorists who'd want to do nasty things to us for simply allowing global trade, or for allowing trade with repressive regimes like Saudi Arabia or Nigeria, or for selling weapons to countri

Question on Mixmaster

2003-01-13 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
I've known about Mixmaster for years, but only just now finally downloaded and installed it (Mixmaster 2.9.0). Does anyone know where I can find documentation on how to actually use it? The distribution (from Sourceforge) contains no documentation whatsoever beyond a *very* terse man page tha