DiSToAGe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>it seems now intel say there is no DRM in there chips.
No, it's very careful to say that there is no *unannounced* DRM in their
chips, in the same way that we have had no undetected penetrations of our
security.
Peter.
DiSToAGe wrote:
not a backdoor, we forget to much that every system is only 1 and 0
through electricity and physical circuits. If you can make them you can
watch them (with time and monney i agree). Perhaps thinking that datas
(certs, instructions) can be "hidden" behind a physical thing is only
it seems now intel say there is no DRM in there chips.
Earlier FUD ? marketing tactic ? desire to hide truth to public as
discussed before ?
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/05/1833241
interesting talk about economic elements ...
I believe that in every human new work (new creation, or new hack), the
men who make the work do things to help others make the work faster and
easier. So with time, if a few people can hack some drm machine, it will
be more easier and more cheaper for
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:05:30AM +0200, DiSToAGe wrote:
> I have read infos that say that audio and video drivers will be in the
> trusted chain. If your hardware system is used by an os (i.e. win) on
> which you can't create drivers, and only industry signed drivers can be
> used you can't bypas
>From: DiSToAGe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Jun 2, 2005 5:05 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: /. [Intel Adds DRM to New Chips]
>I have read infos that say that audio and video drivers will be in the
>trusted chain. If your hardware system is used by an os (i.e.
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 12:26:09PM +0200, DiSToAGe wrote:
> yes, with "you" I meen "you being an hardware maker"
Yes, the hardware maker hides the secret in a bit of tamperproof hardware you
buy. That's the whole idea of digital restriction management -- taking away
things you could do with the h
Le jeudi 02 juin 2005 à 09:27 +0200, Eugen Leitl a écrit :
> My thought is, can cryptosystems be broken? Not by 31337 h4x0rs, obviously.
>
with time each, but not the general crypto "philosophy" ?
> > cert on your DRM you must put cert and private keys on your DRM chip ...
>
> Not you -- somebo
On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 11:05:30AM +0200, DiSToAGe wrote:
> I have read infos that say that audio and video drivers will be in the
> trusted chain. If your hardware system is used by an os (i.e. win) on
> which you can't create drivers, and only industry signed drivers can be
> used you can't bypa
(thanks for interesting answer)
I have read infos that say that audio and video drivers will be in the
trusted chain. If your hardware system is used by an os (i.e. win) on
which you can't create drivers, and only industry signed drivers can be
used you can't bypass this by hacking drivers ...
My
[could you use CPU emulator to bypass these motherboard and CPU based
DRM systems].
Answer: no. They have but private keys inside the DRM hardware, and
signed the corresponding public key with a CA that they control. That
plus some hashing/bootstrapping etc of the startup and some other code
all
Le samedi 28 mai 2005 à 21:53 +0200, Eugen Leitl a écrit :
> Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/28/1718200
> Posted by: Zonk, on 2005-05-28 17:37:00
>
>from the get-you-where-you-live dept.
>Badluck writes "Microsoft and the entertainment industry's holy grail
>of controlli
Eugen Leitl wrote...
Online activation of software is already quite widespread, so it seems
customers are willing to accept restriction to ownership and use.
Well, that's an interesting phenomenon. In industrialized nations where the
price of software is fairly low compared to the wages, peop
On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 11:26:28PM -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
> (Continued)
> "Contrary to expectations, however, sales of the chip have been suprisingly
> low, with zero interest shown by major PC manufacturers. One major PC
> industry executive, who wished to remain anonymous sated: "There are
Eugen Leitl wrote...
from the get-you-where-you-live dept.
Badluck writes "Microsoft and the entertainment industry's holy grail
of controlling copyright through the motherboard has moved a step
closer with Intel Corp. now embedding [1]digital rights management
within in its lates
On 2005-05-28T21:53:52+0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/28/1718200
> Posted by: Zonk, on 2005-05-28 17:37:00
>
>from the get-you-where-you-live dept.
>Badluck writes "Microsoft and the entertainment industry's holy grail
>of controlling copyrigh
Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/28/1718200
Posted by: Zonk, on 2005-05-28 17:37:00
from the get-you-where-you-live dept.
Badluck writes "Microsoft and the entertainment industry's holy grail
of controlling copyright through the motherboard has moved a step
closer with I
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