>From: Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: May 9, 2005 3:55 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [IP] Real ID = National ID (fwd from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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>What do we need "security" for? We need security because a lot of
>people hate the U.S., and because we won't close our borders, and
>beca
On 2005-05-09T19:55:26+, Justin wrote:
> What do we need "security" for? We need security because a lot of
> people hate the U.S., and because we won't close our borders, and
Apparently I have not learned any lessons from the follies of a certain
California governor.
By close the borders, I
On 2005-05-09T12:22:22-0700, cypherpunk wrote:
> We already have de facto national ID in the form of our state driver's
> licenses. They are accepted at face value at all 50 states as well as
> by the federal government. Real ID would rationalize the issuing
> procedures and require a certain minim
We already have de facto national ID in the form of our state driver's
licenses. They are accepted at face value at all 50 states as well as
by the federal government. Real ID would rationalize the issuing
procedures and require a certain minimum of verification. Without it
we have security that is
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