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On 22 Oct 2001, at 23:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My understanding
(from questioning on this topic in the distant past with an
MD/shrink) is that the sodium
thiopental/pentobarbital/etc. truth serum is an urban
legend. He was quite specific that the drug was a definite
aid to
Besides, the Taliban don't dance.
When the B-52's are performing even the Taliban develop rhythm.
are on the Al Qaeda personnel who want to tell all.. The ones who
are so proud of what they have done they will let you know whatever you
want...
Jon Beets
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Subject: Re: FBI considers torture
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:04:44PM -0500, Jon Beets wrote:
This appears total BS to me... While I don't doubt some agents do at times
conduct their own idea of interrogation I sincerely doubt that the FBI as a
whole would be considering this...
Yes, journalists like those at the Times and the
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 08:50:01PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
Yes, but this is one of those manufactured, utterly implausible
situations. I cannot think of a single instance where a suspect had this
kind of knowledge, with this kind of stakes, and with this kind of next
three hours timetable.
Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 08:50:01PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
Yes, but this is one of those manufactured, utterly implausible
situations. I cannot think of a single instance where a suspect had this
kind of knowledge, with this kind of stakes, and with
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001350021-2001364909,00.html
FBI considers
torture as suspects stay silent
FROM DAMIAN WHITWORTH IN WASHINGTON
AMERICAN
investigators are considering resorting to harsher
interrogation techniques, including
torture, after facing a wall of
silence from
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Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent
FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001350021-2001364909,00.html
AMERICAN investigators are considering resorting to harsher interrogation
techniques
[A whipping-boys-for-legible-content repost.]
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001350021-2001364909,00.html
MONDAY OCTOBER 22 2001
FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent
FROM DAMIAN WHITWORTH IN WASHINGTON
AMERICAN investigators are considering resorting to harsher
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Jon Beets wrote:
Subject: CDR: Re: FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent
This appears total BS to me... While I don't doubt some agents do at times
conduct their own idea of interrogation I sincerely doubt that the FBI as a
whole would be considering
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:13:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that in todays hyper-patriotic environment, this is would be
not only an accepted practice, but even a _preferred_ one by many
Amerikans :-(
Yep. It's going to be a hard political sell to insist that yes, this
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:13:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that in todays hyper-patriotic environment, this is would be
not only an accepted practice, but even a _preferred_ one by many
Amerikans :-(
Yep. It's going to be a
Well hell in those extreme circumstances. But we are hardly at that place
yet.
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Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:33 PM
Subject: CDR: Re: FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent
On Monday, October 22, 2001, at 07:33 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:13:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that in todays hyper-patriotic environment, this is would be
not only an accepted practice, but even a _preferred_ one by many
Amerikans :-(
Yep.
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Tim May wrote:
If the U.S. abandons the standard that no person shall be compelled to
be a witness against himself--something the truth serum drugging
option would of course imply just as surely as torture would--the end
times will be upon us.
I submit that this has
At 10:33 PM 10/22/01 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 09:13:51PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that in todays hyper-patriotic environment, this is would be
not only an accepted practice, but even a _preferred_ one by many
Amerikans :-(
Yep. It's going to be a
David Honig wrote:
1. Since death in combat is far more heroic [1] to these folks than it
is to Americans, the torturers will have to be careful.
...
[1] Though one wonders whether psyops -mutilation of corpse and cliched pig
games-
would help.
So, the torturers should get rid of their
At 9:04 PM -0500 10/22/01, Jon Beets wrote:
This appears total BS to me... While I don't doubt some agents do at times
conduct their own idea of interrogation I sincerely doubt that the FBI as a
whole would be considering this...
Jon Beets
And you base your doubts on what? The FBI's sterling
At the risk of being told to go google (which I guess I'll do in a
moment), does anyone have any information either contrary to this, or
possibly of another truth serum that would fit the stated bill?
Methylenedioxy-n-methylamphetamine.
FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001350021-2001364909,00.html
AMERICAN investigators are considering resorting to harsher interrogation techniques,
including torture, after facing a wall of silence from jailed suspected members of
Osama bin
FBI considers torture as suspects stay silent
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001350021-2001364909,00.html
AMERICAN investigators are considering resorting to harsher
interrogation techniques, including torture, after facing a wall of
silence from jailed suspected members of Osama bin
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