On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Trei, Peter wrote:

> Mike, I hate to break it to you, but Muslims did not exist before
> 612 AD, when Mohammed received a vision of the Archangel
> Gabriel.

Peter, I hate to break it to you but the 'religion' may not have existed
per se but the people and culture did.

The fact is, whatever you want to call them, the pre-cursor culture of
Allah -did- exist and -did- persecute the to-be Christians.

Rather moots your point.

You should read more Cambell.


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