Re: E-Mail Authentication Will Not End Spam, Panelists Say

2004-11-22 Thread Chris Palmer
Russell Nelson writes: > Yes, this is true. John Gilmore is a pain in the ass for standing on > his rights (some government types might say *fucking* pain in the > ass), but he is correct. ALL of the effort spent to secure open > relays was basically wasted effort, because spammers just moved on

Re: E-Mail Authentication Will Not End Spam, Panelists Say

2004-11-21 Thread Hadmut Danisch
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 04:20:59PM -0500, R.A. Hettinga wrote: > > Still, panelists insisted authentication is a vital first step. After that, > they said, could come a system that evaluates the "reputation" of senders, > perhaps using a process that marks good e-mail with an electronic seal of >

Re: E-Mail Authentication Will Not End Spam, Panelists Say

2004-11-19 Thread R.A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 11:19 AM -0500 11/19/04, Russell Nelson wrote: >Anybody can pay to send email right now. :-). Of course, I'm talking about something like postage, at the $MTP level. Again, forget it. Cheers, RAH - -- - - R. A. Hettinga The In

Re: E-Mail Authentication Will Not End Spam, Panelists Say

2004-11-19 Thread Russell Nelson
R.A. Hettinga writes: > >mail, followed by email from strangers (which is where all the spam > >is). > > A whitelist for my friends, all others pay... > > oh, forget it. Anybody can pay to send email right now. You just go to paypal, type in the person's email, enter the amount of money y

Re: E-Mail Authentication Will Not End Spam, Panelists Say

2004-11-18 Thread R.A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 9:15 PM -0500 11/18/04, Russell Nelson wrote: >The proper route to control spam is to >involve users in prioritizing their email, so that their friend's >email comes first, followed by anybody they've sent mail to, followed >by people they've gotten

Re: E-Mail Authentication Will Not End Spam, Panelists Say

2004-11-18 Thread Russell Nelson
R.A. Hettinga writes: > Any e-mail authentication system, for example, would check that the block > of Internet addresses assigned to an e-mail provider includes the specific > numeric address of a sender of a piece of e-mail. Huh? Somebody is confused here. DomainKeys is 1) an e-mail authent

Re: E-Mail Authentication Will Not End Spam, Panelists Say

2004-11-11 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake R.A. Hettinga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [11/11/04 16:29]: : Several executives and academics speaking at a forum sponsored by the : Federal Trade Commission said criminals are already steps ahead of a major : initiative by e-mail providers to counter those problems by creating a : system to ve

E-Mail Authentication Will Not End Spam, Panelists Say

2004-11-11 Thread R.A. Hettinga
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A41460-2004Nov10?language=printer> The Washington Post washingtonpost.com E-Mail Authentication Will Not End Spam, Panelists Say By Jonathan Krim Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday, November 11, 2004; Page E01 For consumers and busi