David Honig wrote:
> >on the ideological level, no.
> >on the practical level - a lot. for example, you don't go to jail for
> >not paying GEMA.
>
> Then why do people pay?
because you can't "opt out" - blank tapes just cost $x - GEMA included.
you can't buy any without.
shop owners and others
At 05:59 PM 9/8/00 -0400, Jim Choate wrote:
>On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, David Honig wrote:
>> Ultimately law is backed by violence.
>>
>
>And therefore it is badyadda, yadda, yadda
>
>Bullshit. That is such a general statement as to be worthless.
>
>The 'law' stems from the individual right to self-
At 07:09 PM 9/8/00 +0200, Tom Vogt wrote:
>David Honig wrote:
>> The "right" of GEMA to sue is enforced by folks claiming to be from
>> your "State" who carry guns, no?
>>
>> A level of indirection doesn't change anything.
>
>on the ideological level, no.
>on the practical level - a lot. for exam
David Honig wrote:
> >> So if you don't pay GEMA who *are* those folks with the guns?
> >
> >GEMA will most likely sue you. but since GEMA isn't the government,
> >that's a civil case.
>
> The "right" of GEMA to sue is enforced by folks claiming to be from
> your "State" who carry guns, no?
>
>
At 05:10 AM 9/8/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote:
>David Honig wrote:
>> >not quite right. it is NOT the government that collects, and this is not
>> >a tax. there's a "non-profit" organisation called GEMA that collects and
>> >re-distributes these things.
>>
>> So if you don't pay GEMA who *are* those f
Bill Stewart wrote:
> So does the proposed law require companies to pay GEMA
> if they make or sell anything in this category?
I'm afraid that is what is being proposed.
of course, similiar stuff has been proposed for a long time. the IP
industry is greedy, as we all know. and since IP is an arti
David Honig wrote:
> >not quite right. it is NOT the government that collects, and this is not
> >a tax. there's a "non-profit" organisation called GEMA that collects and
> >re-distributes these things.
>
> So if you don't pay GEMA who *are* those folks with the guns?
GEMA will most likely sue y
At 06:15 AM 9/7/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote:
>Tim May wrote:
>> You're missing a more important point: there is no correlation
>> between who is using the service or product and who is paying the tax.
>>
>> Taxing a computer used for video game playing, for example, when
>> absolutely no "piracy" is
At 06:15 AM 9/7/00 -0400, Tom Vogt wrote:
>not quite right. it is NOT the government that collects, and this is not
>a tax. there's a "non-profit" organisation called GEMA that collects and
>re-distributes these things.
>
So if you don't pay GEMA who *are* those folks with the guns?
On Thu, 07 Sep 2000, Tom Vogt wrote:
> Tim May wrote:
> >
> > Governments like this sort of thing, however. Tax everyone, then
> > spend the revenues as they wish.
>
> not quite right. it is NOT the government that collects, and this is not
> a tax. there's a "non-profit" organisation called GEMA
Tim May wrote:
> You're missing a more important point: there is no correlation
> between who is using the service or product and who is paying the tax.
>
> Taxing a computer used for video game playing, for example, when
> absolutely no "piracy" is happening from that computer. An overly
> wide
Germany Reportedly Plans 'Internet
Tax'
BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany is planning to slap new
levies on computer, telecommunications and Internet
products to ensure that authors are properly rewarded for
the use of their work, a newspaper said Wednesday.
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