Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-21 Thread Petro
On Saturday, November 17, 2001, at 09:50 AM, Eric Cordian wrote: No ones hair is falling out. Really. Well, not from radiation anyway. -- Remember, half-measures can be very effective if all you deal with are half-wits.--Chris Klein

RE: CDR: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-19 Thread Trei, Peter
[EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: detonation. You can actually hold a subcritical mass of plutonium in your hand for awhile - I'm told it feels warm. Can't say I've tried it myself. hold on mr. expert. you hold a sub

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-19 Thread mmotyka
!Dr. Joe Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Where did this bullshit come from? Did someone take a ravioli recipe and do some search and replace? Is Dr. Joe Baptista really Jim Choate in disguise? My favorite short quote : The trick is to bring the U-235 masses together at the same time.

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-19 Thread Ken Brown
A propaganda weapon doesn't have to work, it just has to present a threat of working to people who may or may not understand how it is meant to work. It doesn't have to be a credible military weapon. A kamikaze airliner isn't a credible *military* weapon against anyone who can afford artillery.

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-19 Thread baptista
exactly right Ken .. as i said before to Tim May - propaganda is the key. Example - antrax theatre. i must admit i'm warming up to Tim May's tall pipe means of attaining critical mass - much easier then playing with explosive and timing devices - my only question is do our experts see a problem

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-19 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:15:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i must admit i'm warming up to Tim May's tall pipe means of attaining critical mass - much easier then playing with explosive and timing devices - my only question is do our

Re: CDR: Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-19 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
And you might mention for the nuclearly impaired that the fuel used in RTGs is not the same as the fissionables used in reactors and weapons. Marc de Piolenc Eric Cordian wrote: Peter Trei wrote: I have a vague memory of seeing a photo of a ?3 inch? ball of Pu (isotopic composition

Cookbooks and Pigs (Was Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device)

2001-11-18 Thread Anonymous
Tim wrote: The bomb instructions Joe provided are as accurate as most recipes in The Anarchist Cookbook. (A book my local Sheriff's Department banned in 1970.) How did the Sheriff's Department manage to do this?

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread baptista
Now - i've replied to you below - but I think were missing the point of the post. So i'll repeat - it's easy to do harm when you have the will to die to rally your cause - as we have seen on sept 11. and i find it regrettable that conditions exist in which people use extreme methods to focus

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread Tim May
On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 08:20 PM, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: One thing that is bothering me these days are all the reports coming out of Afganistan that nuclear bomb making plans were found. Big deal. Anyone on the planet can make a nuclear device if they have the appropriate

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, November 17, 2001, at 12:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now - i've replied to you below - but I think were missing the point of the post. So i'll repeat - it's easy to do harm when you have the will to die to rally your cause - as we have seen on sept 11. and i find it

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread baptista
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote: I'd guess that the tall pipe version is the most buildable of the basement nukes. (In a nutshell: a tall drainpipe, perhaps 40 feet tall. Set up in an apartment building, warehouse, etc. At the base the pipe is reinforced with copious amounts of

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, November 17, 2001, at 12:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote: I'd guess that the tall pipe version is the most buildable of the basement nukes. (In a nutshell: a tall drainpipe, perhaps 40 feet tall. Set up in an apartment building, warehouse,

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread baptista
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote: The idea _is_ for it to detonate, not just have a severe thermal excursion! No Tim - that is incorrect. The Thermal incursion will do just swell. Remember these people are making a point. So the nuclear device is nothing more then a prop in an endless

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread baptista
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Bill Stewart wrote: At 11:56 PM 11/16/2001 -0800, Tim May wrote: Nearly all metals are malleable to some extent (in that they don't shatter when subjected to shear forces), but I was responding to your beat the metal in a stainless steel bowl idea. Good luck on beat U

Re: CDR: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
A couple of corrections from somebody who began studying this threat fifteen years ago. There is little danger to weapons builders from exposure to fissile materials, because they have very little spontaneous radioactivity. The radioactive emissions come when the device goes supercritical during

Re: CDR: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread baptista
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: detonation. You can actually hold a subcritical mass of plutonium in your hand for awhile - I'm told it feels warm. Can't say I've tried it myself. hold on mr. expert. you hold a sub critical mass in your hand and in a few days you end up

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread Eric Cordian
Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: hold on mr. expert. you hold a sub critical mass in your hand and in a few days you end up shitting out your guts, lose your hair and die. so i assume the person who had the opportunity to hold such a critical mass is now dead. where are you getting your info on

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread Eric Cordian
F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: Consider that nuclear weapons could not be built if the fissiles had high rates of spontaneous decay - the stuff would detonate prematurely, resulting in a fizzle. That, incidentally, is why plutonium cannot be used in a gun-type device - two isotopes are

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 12:24:31AM -0800, Tim May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 08:20 PM, !Dr. Joe Baptista wrote: Anyone on this planet can build a nuclear device. So the only issue in building the device is the will to die for a cause. And the only thing

HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-16 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
One thing that is bothering me these days are all the reports coming out of Afganistan that nuclear bomb making plans were found. Big deal. Anyone on the planet can make a nuclear device if they have the appropriate materials. The hard part is staying alive due to exposure while manufacturing

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-16 Thread Steve Schear
At 11:20 PM 11/16/2001 -0500, you wrote: \Divide the U-235 into two five pound masses. Beat it evenly into the inside of one of your salad bowls. U-235 is malleable like gold so you should have no problem shaping it. Do the same with the other U-235 mass and shape it into the other salad bowl.

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-16 Thread Petro
On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 09:08 PM, Steve Schear wrote: At 11:20 PM 11/16/2001 -0500, you wrote: \Divide the U-235 into two five pound masses. Beat it evenly into the inside of one of your salad bowls. U-235 is malleable like gold so you should have no problem shaping it. Do the

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-16 Thread Tim May
On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 09:08 PM, Steve Schear wrote: At 11:20 PM 11/16/2001 -0500, you wrote: \Divide the U-235 into two five pound masses. Beat it evenly into the inside of one of your salad bowls. U-235 is malleable like gold so you should have no problem shaping it. Do the

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-16 Thread baptista
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote: Gold is malleable AND is denser than steel. Uranium is NOT malleable AND is denser than steel. Incorrect. Uranium is an actinide series element. It is a hard silver almost white substance which is both malleable and ductile. Of course this does not

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-16 Thread Sergei Kolodka
Hello !Dr., That's just description of chain reaction from school course of physics, every kid know that from age 14. It's impossible to find somewhere in universe 2 kilos of pure plutonium. So, impossible to built nuclear bomb with wight less then 40-50 kilos, and definitely impossible to built

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-16 Thread !Dr. Joe Baptista
On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Sergei Kolodka wrote: To be realistic - everyone can built BIG bomb with ammony, acetone and sugar - things from nearest supermarket. Not as big as nuclear one, but enough big to destroy building. That is the issue is it not? The fact is the building of a nuclear bomb

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-16 Thread baptista
Here's a reference which should give you a good but brief outline of Uranium and it associated properties and uses. http://pearl1.lanl.gov/periodic/elements/92.html Incendentally this reference is taken from the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics a great reference manual. I still have my

Re: HOWTO Build a Nuclear Device

2001-11-16 Thread Tim May
On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 10:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Tim May wrote: Gold is malleable AND is denser than steel. Uranium is NOT malleable AND is denser than steel. Incorrect. Uranium is an actinide series element. It is a hard silver almost white