On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, James A. Donald wrote:
On 11 Dec 2004 at 8:29, J.A. Terranson wrote:
Looking out of my fifth floor window I can connect to ~20
802.x nets *without* directional antennas or high powered
cards. With extra gear, I can hit almost 50, and in both
cases, roughly a third
On 2004-12-11T06:48:41-0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
At 09:47 PM 12/10/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
Now we're back to the MixMaster argument. Mixmaster was meant to be a
Napster-level popular app for emailing, but people just don't care
about anonymity.
Mixmaster is the most
--
On 11 Dec 2004 at 8:29, J.A. Terranson wrote:
Looking out of my fifth floor window I can connect to ~20
802.x nets *without* directional antennas or high powered
cards. With extra gear, I can hit almost 50, and in both
cases, roughly a third are completely open, another third are
At 12:01 AM 12/13/04 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
Interestingly, I don't
know of anyone who still actively wardrives at random (as opposed to
against specific targets) for this same reason.
I've met some people this year who war-fly SoCal: a cessna, laptop, and
regular dipole
suffices, and a GPS
On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 08:17:32AM -0600, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
This seems like a peculiarity of your location. Here in Austin almost
all of downtown is covered by free wireless.
I wonder how much of it is deliberate. I run my AP open for any passerby, and
expect similiar in return when I pass
--
On 10 Dec 2004 at 21:47, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
Wardriving is also basically dead. Sure there are a handful
of people that do it, but the number is so small as to be
irrelevant.
I regularly use the internet through other people's unprotected
wireless networks, simply for convenience
At 06:01 PM 12/11/04 +, Justin wrote:
On 2004-12-11T06:48:41-0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Mixmaster is the most godawful complex thing to use, much less
administer, around. Even Jack B Nymble is complex. It needs a
simple
luser interface and something to piggyback servers on.
Not
Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Mixmaster is the most godawful complex thing to use, much less
administer, around. Even Jack B Nymble is complex.
It needs a simple luser interface and something
to piggyback servers on.
Mixminion is a little better, but needs more market penetration and
still has
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Justin wrote:
Not necessarily. Mixmaster is trivial to use with Mutt.
1. Compile Mixmaster
2. Put the binary in some directory somewhere.
3. Configure Mutt with --with-mixmaster (sadly not enabled by default)
4. add the line 'set mixmaster=/location/to/bin/mixmaster'
At 10:08 AM 12/11/2004, J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Justin wrote:
Not necessarily. Mixmaster is trivial to use with Mutt.
1. Compile Mixmaster
.
You just made my case for me. Joe Sixpack will not wtf you are talking
about. Hell, half the RedHat users won't know either
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, James A. Donald wrote:
On 11 Dec 2004 at 8:29, J.A. Terranson wrote:
Looking out of my fifth floor window I can connect to ~20
802.x nets *without* directional antennas or high powered
cards. With extra gear, I can hit almost 50, and in both
cases, roughly a third
At 06:01 PM 12/11/04 +, Justin wrote:
On 2004-12-11T06:48:41-0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Mixmaster is the most godawful complex thing to use, much less
administer, around. Even Jack B Nymble is complex. It needs a
simple
luser interface and something to piggyback servers on.
Not
--
On 10 Dec 2004 at 21:47, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
Wardriving is also basically dead. Sure there are a handful
of people that do it, but the number is so small as to be
irrelevant.
I regularly use the internet through other people's unprotected
wireless networks, simply for convenience
--
On 11 Dec 2004 at 8:29, J.A. Terranson wrote:
Looking out of my fifth floor window I can connect to ~20
802.x nets *without* directional antennas or high powered
cards. With extra gear, I can hit almost 50, and in both
cases, roughly a third are completely open, another third are
At 12:01 AM 12/13/04 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote:
Interestingly, I don't
know of anyone who still actively wardrives at random (as opposed to
against specific targets) for this same reason.
I've met some people this year who war-fly SoCal: a cessna, laptop, and
regular dipole
suffices, and a GPS
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
Joseph Ashwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I regularly drive down through Los Angeles, when I have stopped
for gas or food and checked I rarely see an unprotected network.
This seems like a peculiarity of your location. Here in Austin almost
all of
On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 08:17:32AM -0600, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
This seems like a peculiarity of your location. Here in Austin almost
all of downtown is covered by free wireless.
I wonder how much of it is deliberate. I run my AP open for any passerby, and
expect similiar in return when I pass
At 09:47 PM 12/10/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
Wardriving is also basically dead.
On the contrary. A recent article (zdnet IIRC) described a non-hacker
visiting his father, and using a neighbor's connection accidentally.
This is very common. My own non-tech father regularly finds
other nets
Joseph Ashwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I regularly drive down through Los Angeles, when I have stopped
for gas or food and checked I rarely see an unprotected network.
This seems like a peculiarity of your location. Here in Austin almost
all of downtown is covered by free wireless.
--
Riad
Major Variola (ret) wrote:
Mixmaster is the most godawful complex thing to use, much less
administer, around. Even Jack B Nymble is complex.
It needs a simple luser interface and something
to piggyback servers on.
Mixminion is a little better, but needs more market penetration and
still has
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Justin wrote:
Not necessarily. Mixmaster is trivial to use with Mutt.
1. Compile Mixmaster
2. Put the binary in some directory somewhere.
3. Configure Mutt with --with-mixmaster (sadly not enabled by default)
4. add the line 'set mixmaster=/location/to/bin/mixmaster'
At 10:08 AM 12/11/2004, J.A. Terranson wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Justin wrote:
Not necessarily. Mixmaster is trivial to use with Mutt.
1. Compile Mixmaster
.
You just made my case for me. Joe Sixpack will not wtf you are talking
about. Hell, half the RedHat users won't know either
On 2004-12-11T06:48:41-0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
At 09:47 PM 12/10/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
Now we're back to the MixMaster argument. Mixmaster was meant to be a
Napster-level popular app for emailing, but people just don't care
about anonymity.
Mixmaster is the most
- Original Message -
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving
At 07:47 PM 12/9/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
If the Klan doesn't have
a right to wear pillowcases what makes you think mixmaster will
survive?
Well besides
At 09:47 PM 12/10/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
Wardriving is also basically dead.
On the contrary. A recent article (zdnet IIRC) described a non-hacker
visiting his father, and using a neighbor's connection accidentally.
This is very common. My own non-tech father regularly finds
other nets
Joseph Ashwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I regularly drive down through Los Angeles, when I have stopped
for gas or food and checked I rarely see an unprotected network.
This seems like a peculiarity of your location. Here in Austin almost
all of downtown is covered by free wireless.
--
Riad
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
Joseph Ashwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I regularly drive down through Los Angeles, when I have stopped
for gas or food and checked I rarely see an unprotected network.
This seems like a peculiarity of your location. Here in Austin almost
all of
At 07:47 PM 12/9/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
If the Klan doesn't have
a right to wear pillowcases what makes you think mixmaster will
survive?
Well besides the misinterprettaion of the ruling, which I will ignore,
what
makes you think MixMaster isn't already dead?
OK, substitute
At 07:47 PM 12/9/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
If the Klan doesn't have
a right to wear pillowcases what makes you think mixmaster will
survive?
Well besides the misinterprettaion of the ruling, which I will ignore,
what
makes you think MixMaster isn't already dead?
OK, substitute
- Original Message -
From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving
At 07:47 PM 12/9/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
If the Klan doesn't have
a right to wear pillowcases what makes you think mixmaster will
survive?
Well besides
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