At 11:47 PM 7/26/00 -0400, Kevin Elliott wrote:
At 00:48 -0400 7/26/00, Tim May wrote:
At 12:06 AM -0400 7/26/00, Ernest Hua wrote:
I thought recent presidents have been declaring a state of emergency
for who knows how long.
But that's not what is being talked about. You are not reading
At 11:05 PM 7/25/00 -0400, Riad Wahby wrote:
These two statements are totally incorrect. First of all, a computer
_does_ contribute to heat in a significant way. Consider this: the
average computer-grade power supply is 70% efficient, and, on average,
A computer turns 100% of its load into
At 12:48 AM 7/26/00 -0400, Tim May wrote:
At 12:06 AM -0400 7/26/00, Ernest Hua wrote:
I thought recent presidents have been declaring a state of emergency
for who knows how long.
But that's not what is being talked about. You are not reading
carefully. The Third refers to war, and this is
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Yahoo bought rocketmail some time ago. I know, I
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t 01:58 AM 7/25/2000 -0400, John Bronson wrote:
Just watched this hearing. I just subscribed to this list, so while
I don't want to piss anyone off, I question what seems to be a
knee-jerk reaction against Carnivore. In theory, I positively agree
with the need for such a tool. I want
The 3rd amendment argument is a losing argument. The purpose of that
amendment is to prevent repeating something that happened during the
Revolutionary War. It pertains to soldiers shacking up in civilian's
houses, not to a civilian law-enforcement organization hooking a computer
up to your ISP's
--
At 11:58 AM 7/25/2000 -0400, Agent Bronson wrote
The 3rd amendment argument is a losing argument. The purpose of that
amendment is to prevent repeating something that happened during the
Revolutionary War. It pertains to soldiers shacking up in civilian's
houses, not to a civilian
The 3rd amendment argument is a losing argument. The purpose of that
amendment is to prevent repeating something that happened during the
Revolutionary War. It pertains to soldiers shacking up in civilian's
houses, not to a civilian law-enforcement organization hooking a
computer
up to your
At 03:11 PM 7/25/00 -0400, Agent Bronson wrote:
I still say it's a moral failure to allow terrorism to be accepted as
warfare and foolishness not to protect our land from it.
Those land mines along the .mx border really have the latino votes
pissed off...
A freedom fighter is just a terrorist
Yes, the 3rd ammendment isn't really about the soldiers spying on you,
it's about them eating up your resources. But a box at an ISP sniffing
traffic IS eating up the ISP's resources. In the least it's eating up
electricity and bandwith to report back and be controlled.
The 1st
At 13:12 -0400 7/25/00, Me wrote:
are you saying that the 3rd amendment grants congress the power
to make law for hte quartering of troops in private homes outside
of war?
My read is that they can make allow allowing quartering but only in
times of war.
--
Kevin "The Cubbie" Elliott
John Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First, I hope it's understood that I'm undecided whether I'm for carnivore
or against it. The more I read on this list, though, the more I agree with
you guys. Some of arguments against it are unfounded though, like this 3rd
amendment thing.
I
Yes, the 3rd ammendment isn't really about the soldiers spying on
you,
it's about them eating up your resources. But a box at an ISP
sniffing
traffic IS eating up the ISP's resources. In the least it's eating
up
electricity and bandwith to report back and be controlled.
The
At 12:29 PM 25/07/00 -0400, Agent Bronson wrote:
At 12:14 PM 25/07/00 -0400, James A. Donald wrote:
The US got along fine without ANY equivalent of the FBI through most of
its
history.
That's very true. But we have future Oklahoma Cities to contend with now.
Remember the y2k Seattle
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