On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In principle, it should be possible to write a stego program that is
>undetectable, provided your enemy has no better models of noise sources in
>the medium than you have. As far as I know, no one has done this.
This is a point I raised on a waterma
Ah, but your assumptions are not quite right. See my Wired News
article on steganalysis.
-Declan
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 09:34:15AM -0700, David Honig wrote:
> At 08:07 AM 7/18/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
> >I keep looking at the whole stego thing. But the basic problem
> >remains the same
At 06:56 PM 7/18/01 +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote:
>On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, David Honig wrote:
>
>> 1. encrypted data is indisttinguishable from uniformly distributed noise
>
>Yes, but which natural data sources have that signature?
None. I was glossing over how you should measure your (e.g., camera's)
18, 2001 12:34 PM
> To: Ray Dillinger
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: DMCA has pushed me to my limit.
>
>
>
> At 08:07 AM 7/18/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
> >I keep looking at the whole stego thing. But the basic problem
> >remains the same. Stego relies
On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, David Honig wrote:
> 1. encrypted data is indisttinguishable from uniformly distributed noise
Yes, but which natural data sources have that signature?
> 2. LSBs in digitizations of analog signals are noise
Not uniformly distributed noise, unfortunately. Perhaps somebody sh
At 08:07 AM 7/18/01 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
>I keep looking at the whole stego thing. But the basic problem
>remains the same. Stego relies on the *method* being secret,
>which stands in stark contrast to kerchoff's principle. I mean,
>sure, you can stego encrypted stuff so nobody who re
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 10:18:42AM -0700, Black Unicorn wrote:
> When a foreign national can be arrested for a bit of coding which was
> developed (I assume) outside the US and never, by his actions (I assume)
> hit US soil well it really is time for the DMCA to go.
Without quibbling with your se
On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 07:07:48PM -0700, Morlock Elloi wrote:
> Buy some ad space in papers and get the message out. Running decent-size ads
> will take many K$. Maybe if a number of contributors insist on this EFF would
> coordinate it ? How does one round up contributors in cpunkish environment
On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 10:21:44AM -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
> Well, if Pinochet can be arrested in London, on the request of a
> French (or was it Spanish?) judge, over acts allegedly
> committed in Chile, I'd say yes.
>
> and don't forget the Norwegian who was arrested in Oslo for
> the
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On 18 Jul 2001, at 0:55, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
> On a more general level, is US law to be construed as granting
> personal jurisdiction over anyone on the US soil, regardless of
> where the actual crime was committed? I.e., if I do something
> wrong according to the Code,
> I'd better stay t
At 12:55 AM +0300 7/18/01, Sampo Syreeni wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Black Unicorn wrote:
>
>>When a foreign national can be arrested for a bit of coding which was
>>developed (I assume) outside the US and never, by his actions (I assume)
>>hit US soil well it really is time for the DMCA to go.
>
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Cypherpunks do something?
>
> Maybe start with the basics: a WWW site.
> Doesn't Choate have a couple registered names for our use?
I have cpunks.org registered for Austin Cypherpunks use...do you live in
Austin? Is there anyone in Austin working
> Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>FBI agents have arrested a Russian programmer for giving
>away software that removes the restrictions on encrypted
>Adobe Acrobat files.
The Big O wrote:
>
> "Nuts!"
Black Unicorn with the opalesque spike wrote:
#
#Ok. That's
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