Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-31 Thread Tyler Durden
not, the word is probably not very useful outside of HS and pre-med physics courses. -TD From: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:38:03 -0500 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-31 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 03:30 PM 3/31/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: >Uh...this is getting tiring...as far as I'm concerned this part of the >discussion looks like semantics. RAH's main point, physical chemistry aside, was that various folks benefit from hyperbole and/or fearmongering. That point remains valid, in man

Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-31 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 7:56 PM +0100 3/31/04, Jim Dixon wrote: >"Sublimation of an element or substance is a conversion between the >solid and the gaseous states with no liquid intermediate stage." Yes, I know the common definition. But, like I said, I was told by someo

RE: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-31 Thread Trei, Peter
RAH wrote: >Peter, I'm not going to get into a fisking match with you, but I >didn't just make this stuff up, and I resent you saying I did. OK, I agree I was a bit snarky. Mea culpas below. >At 10:26 AM -0500 3/31/04, Trei, Peter wrote: >>* Evaporating LPG (liquids do not 'sublimate') will burn

Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-31 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 6:16 PM + 3/31/04, Justin wrote: >Haven't you ever seen a phase diagram? Sigh. Yes. Here's one, for water: And your point is? Let's see, if we rapidly cool boiling water by dis

RE: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-31 Thread Trei, Peter
Bob wrote: >Justing wrote: >>Haven't you ever seen a phase diagram? >Sigh. Yes. Here's one, for water: > >And your point is? Let's see, if we rapidly cool boiling water by >dispersing it in supercold air... somewhere past the triple

Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-31 Thread Jim Dixon
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Justin wrote: > > As for "sublimate", when you toss a cup of boiling water into the air > > at extremely cold temperatures it converts straight into a gas, all > > at once. That's what I was talking about. A chemist I bumped into > > with that story called it sublimation, and

Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-31 Thread Justin
R. A. Hettinga (2004-03-31 16:41Z) wrote: > At 10:26 AM -0500 3/31/04, Trei, Peter wrote: > >* Evaporating LPG (liquids do not 'sublimate')... > > As for "sublimate", when you toss a cup of boiling water into the air > at extremely cold temperatures it converts straight into a gas, all > at once.

RE: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-31 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter, I'm not going to get into a fisking match with you, but I didn't just make this stuff up, and I resent you saying I did. At 10:26 AM -0500 3/31/04, Trei, Peter wrote: >* Evaporating LPG (liquids do not 'sublimate') will burn at the >interface w

RE: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-31 Thread Trei, Peter
R. A. Hettinga wrote: > A *cryogenic* liquid, mind you, meaning that you'd have to heat the > stuff up a lot, and very quickly, in order to set it ablaze, much > less blow it up. A liquid which is busily sublimating directly into > the gas that it is at room temperature, and diluting, accordingly,

Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-31 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 12:28 AM -0500 3/31/04, John Kelsey wrote: >That's why the CEO >has decided to move out of town. Actually, the ex-CEO, who commissioned the study, lives on a boat in a marina next door, :-), but, sure, point taken. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwri

Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-30 Thread John Kelsey
Anyway, about a decade ago, Distrigas, the company that owns the facility in question, ran several *military* -- not law-enforcement - -- anti-terrorism scenarios to see exactly what would be needed to take the place out. What I've heard, albeit second-hand, is that in order to get a useful amount

Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-29 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 11:31 PM -0800 3/28/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >Bob, stick with obfuscated economics and playing with boats. Yea, I know. Think of it as me clearing the pipes for more stuff, or something. I haven't written much lately, and I'm starting

Re: Liquid Natural Flatulence

2004-03-28 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 06:44 PM 3/27/04 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >And, remember again, you have to *enclose* a burning gas to make it >explosive first place. Bob, stick with obfuscated economics and playing with boats. Many gases are explosive in certain ratios to air. Gasoline vapor, acetylene, in a wide range