On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 10:55:00AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote:
> --
> On 9 Dec 2002 at 9:17, Tim May wrote:
> > Anyone in the U.S. can be declared an "enemy combatant" and
> > vanished away from lawyers, habeas corpus, the 6th Amendment,
> > and any semblance of the system of liberty we sor
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 08:15:37PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote:
> > Frankly, millions of these fascists need a simple solution: a tree, a
> > horse, and a rope.
> There aren't enough horses :-)
Unlike bullets, horses and rope are reusable. More expensive up
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 05:21:43PM -0800, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> I was just wondering the same thing myself. Since when is EPIC not
> cypherpunk-friendly?
See my reasonably long post in this thread and Tim's nicely-reasoned
response...
-Declan
On 15 Dec 2002, David Wagner wrote:
> Declan McCullagh wrote:
> >Also epic.org (not a cypherpunk-friendly organization,
> >but it does try to limit law enforcement surveillance) [...]
>
> Is the cypherpunks movement truly so radicalized that it is
> not willing to count even EPIC among its friend
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 01:37 AM, Lucky Green wrote:
James A. Donald wrote:
In general wars lead to a major temporary reduction in liberty,
but a smaller permanent reduction in liberty. Unfortunately
the war on terror will probably never end, so there will be no
recovery.
I heard s
James A. Donald wrote:
> In general wars lead to a major temporary reduction in liberty,
> but a smaller permanent reduction in liberty. Unfortunately
> the war on terror will probably never end, so there will be no
> recovery.
I heard some governmental official on the radio the other day (I p
On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 10:48 AM, Tyler Durden wrote:
In a state where Crypto is not resisted (OK, there probably aren't a
lot of these...perhaps in Europe or Canada?), Crypto "defaults" to the
above.
You really need to get up to speed on this issue if you think either
the nations o
On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 10:55 AM, James A. Donald wrote:
So far this has only been applied to people who are obviously
hostile muslim terrorist wannabees, but the program will be
steadily expanded. Indeed, part of the homeland security act
already aims at people who make cartridges (relo
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On 9 Dec 2002 at 9:17, Tim May wrote:
> Anyone in the U.S. can be declared an "enemy combatant" and
> vanished away from lawyers, habeas corpus, the 6th Amendment,
> and any semblance of the system of liberty we sort of had at
> one time.
So far this has only been applied to people who a
"It's mildly amusing to watch your months-long transition from newcomer to
believer that crypto provides the tools for sabotaging the State and
protecting real liberty."
Well, this is for me not an easy issue. Amerika has always had a hard-on for
fascism (as long as it was in the service of "fr
On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 06:56 AM, Tyler Durden wrote:
"Frankly, millions of these fascists need a simple solution: a tree, a
horse, and a rope."
Damn. If it gets to the point where I'm a terrorist because some local
warlord doesn't like me (or thinks I disrespect his authority), then
Tyler Durden said:
> In a way, the potential and impending truth of Tim May's statement is for a
> me a motivator to continue to promote strong crypto, ubiquitous Wi-Fi,
> "BlackNet", and so on. Hopefully it won't come down to the above.
It already has. And the hell with the horses -- tie th
"Frankly, millions of these fascists need a simple solution: a tree, a
horse, and a rope."
Damn. If it gets to the point where I'm a terrorist because some local
warlord doesn't like me (or thinks I disrespect his authority), then "might
makes right" is all that will be left.
In a way, the pot
jet wrote:
At 20:48 -0500 2002/12/07, Myers W. Carpenter wrote:
http://www.2600.com/news/display/display.shtml?id=1441
PHOTOGRAPHER ARRESTED FOR TAKING PICTURES OF VICE PRESIDENT'S HOTEL
Posted 5 Dec 2002 06:03:48 UTC
One major issue is these days, the laws have become so
incredibly complicat
At 20:48 -0500 2002/12/07, Myers W. Carpenter wrote:
>http://www.2600.com/news/display/display.shtml?id=1441
>
>PHOTOGRAPHER ARRESTED FOR TAKING PICTURES OF VICE PRESIDENT'S HOTEL
>Posted 5 Dec 2002 06:03:48 UTC
Is there any other coverage of this?
--
J. Eric Townsend -- jet spies com
buy stuff,
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote:
>
> Frankly, millions of these fascists need a simple solution: a tree, a
> horse, and a rope.
There aren't enough horses :-)
Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike
On Saturday, December 7, 2002, at 05:48 PM, Myers W. Carpenter wrote:
http://www.2600.com/news/display/display.shtml?id=1441
PHOTOGRAPHER ARRESTED FOR TAKING PICTURES OF VICE PRESIDENT'S HOTEL
Posted 5 Dec 2002 06:03:48 UTC
An amateur photographer named Mike Maginnis was arrested on Tuesday in
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