Re: Enemy at the Door

2001-11-08 Thread David Honig
At 11:45 PM 11/7/01 -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: > Go tell that to the Seattle/Portland/wherever wireless people. Or the >people in rural MN who are putting them up on silos and running a 10 mile >radius. Totally depends on your topography. And even with p-p they aren't >doing parabolics, more

Re: Enemy at the Door

2001-11-07 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: > Go tell that to the Seattle/Portland/wherever wireless people. Don't have to, see the commentary about 'if...directional...' Yagi's won't do that sort of distance either, maybe 3-5 miles. Blipverts (and probably never having actually touched a wi

Re: Enemy at the Door

2001-11-07 Thread Harmon Seaver
Go tell that to the Seattle/Portland/wherever wireless people. Or the people in rural MN who are putting them up on silos and running a 10 mile radius. Totally depends on your topography. And even with p-p they aren't doing parabolics, more like yagi directionals, which could be just another

Re: Enemy at the Door

2001-11-07 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Dave Emery wrote: > I have read reports of people running WiFi links of up to 20 > miles. ONLY with a high gain parabolic. Not with a omni. Further, all it takes to find the other dish is look down that line of site. They're cheap cards, less than $100 each. The 802.1

Re: Enemy at the Door

2001-11-07 Thread Dave Emery
On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 11:01:10PM -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: > > > Duh! Read it again. "802.11'd to DSL to a very remote web site?" That > > DSL line could be clear across town. > > Not with 802.11 anything will it be 'clear across town'. A few hundred

Re: Enemy at the Door

2001-11-07 Thread Harmon Seaver
As someone else mentioned, "Seattle Wireless" scenario, or some form of packet radio, or Which broadband line would they disconecct? And what would those people think? Gee, the stock market T1 just went down. Anyway, so it's broadcasting 802, and the perps already know all the poss

Re: Enemy at the Door

2001-11-07 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: > Duh! Read it again. "802.11'd to DSL to a very remote web site?" That > DSL line could be clear across town. Not with 802.11 anything will it be 'clear across town'. A few hundred yards w/ 802.11b and maybe a mile with 802.11a. Now if you're talking

Re: Enemy at the Door

2001-11-07 Thread Declan McCullagh
Fortunately I do not lack the ability to comprehend modern English, but I do lack the ability to read into a statement what is not there. Even if your suggestion was intended, that DSL line could be shut down as well, which was the point my response was intended to address. -Declan At 10:45

Re: More silly stuff ( was RE: Enemy at the Door )

2001-11-07 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Nomen Nescio wrote: > Much funnier would be a spray of DMSO mixed with DMT. And reapplyed evertime Pihkal -- Day by day the Penguins are making me lose my mind.

Re: Enemy at the Door

2001-11-07 Thread Harmon Seaver
Duh! Read it again. "802.11'd to DSL to a very remote web site?" That DSL line could be clear across town. Declan McCullagh wrote: > Yes, but then your clandestine midnight droppers-by could disconnect > your DSL service in advance. You'd have to couple your DSLcam with a > remote is-it-alive

More silly stuff ( was RE: Enemy at the Door )

2001-11-07 Thread Nomen Nescio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : > Of course you could connect an automated firearm. (Crime Stoppers Note: > aways aim for the head to avoid protective vests) Any lawyers on the list > know what penalties might be brought. I seem to recall that tying a > shotgun to the door knob was ruled an "indescri

Re: Enemy at the Door

2001-11-07 Thread Declan McCullagh
Yes, but then your clandestine midnight droppers-by could disconnect your DSL service in advance. You'd have to couple your DSLcam with a remote is-it-alive pinging service from a secure location... -Declan On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 11:40:48AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > >> Of course you

More silly stuff ( was RE: Enemy at the Door )

2001-11-07 Thread mmotyka
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : > Of course you could connect an automated firearm. (Crime Stoppers Note: > aways aim for the head to avoid protective vests) Any lawyers on the list > know what penalties might be brought. I seem to recall that tying a > shotgun to the door knob was ruled an "indescri