Re: Wikipedia & Tor

2005-09-29 Thread Tyler Durden
That's trivial: charge Tor-originated users for editing. That 0.0001% (all three of them) that actually contributes to Wikipedia will be resourceful enough to create untraceable payment accounts. ...and ensure that all future Tor-originated Wikipedia entries are about anonymous payments and tra

Re: Wikipedia & Tor

2005-09-29 Thread Morlock Elloi
> But now we're back to the question: how can Tor be improved to deal with > this very serious and important problem? What are the steps that might > be taken, however imperfect, to reduce the amount of abuse coming from > Tor nodes? That's trivial: charge Tor-originated users for editing. That 0

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2005-09-27 Thread Eugen Leitl
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2005-09-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
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2005-09-27 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
[yes, I know I'm preaching to the choir] > - Forwarded message from Roger Dingledine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > A potential for cooperation is the proposal below for authenticated > > access to Wikipedia through Tor. I will not speak to any particular > > design here, but if Wikipedia has

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2005-09-27 Thread Tyler Durden
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2005-09-27 Thread lists
Tyler Durden wrote: Sorry...I don't understand...why would psuedonymity services be provided within Tor? I find the concept of having both pseudonymous and anonymous traffic through TOR quite interesting. In some cases, you really do wish to just separate yourself from your meatspace identity

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2005-09-27 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 8:37 PM -0400 9/27/05, lists wrote: > Building a TOR nymspace would be much more >interesting and distributed. Since the first time I met Dingledine, he was talking pseudonymity, bigtime. I was curious when he went to play with onion routers, but maybe I'm not so surprised anymore... Cheers, R

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2005-09-28 Thread Bill Stewart
At 05:37 PM 9/27/2005, lists wrote: Tyler Durden wrote: Sorry...I don't understand...why would psuedonymity services be provided within Tor? I find the concept of having both pseudonymous and anonymous traffic through TOR quite interesting. In some cases, you really do wish to just TOR it

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2005-09-29 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
Quoting Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > One way to build a psuedo-pseudonymous mechanism to hang off of Tor > that would be easy for the Wikipedians to deal with > would be to have a server that lets you connect to it using Tor, > log in using some authentication protocol or other, > then have

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2005-09-29 Thread Tyler Durden
One way to build a psuedo-pseudonymous mechanism to hang off of Tor that would be easy for the Wikipedians to deal with would be to have a server that lets you connect to it using Tor, log in using some authentication protocol or other, then have it generate different outgoing addresses based on

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2005-10-01 Thread lists
On 29 Sep 2005 09:57:54 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: One way to build a psuedo-pseudonymous mechanism to hang off of Tor that would be easy for the Wikipedians to deal with would be to have a server that lets you connect to it using Tor, log in using some authentication protocol or other, then hav

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2005-09-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
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2005-09-29 Thread Eugen Leitl
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2005-09-29 Thread Eugen Leitl
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2005-09-29 Thread Eugen Leitl
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2005-09-30 Thread Eugen Leitl
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2005-09-28 Thread Alan Barrett
> - Forwarded message from Jimmy Wales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > We are not looking for a perfect solution. Yes, Wikis will be > vandalized. We're prepared to deal with that, we do deal with that. > But what I am seeking is some efforts to think usefully about how to > helpfully reconcile o

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2005-09-28 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
> - Forwarded message from Jimmy Wales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > From: Jimmy Wales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:50:52 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Wikipedia & Tor]] >

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2005-09-28 Thread Roy M. Silvernail
Quoting Alan Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > - Forwarded message from Jimmy Wales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > We are not looking for a perfect solution. Yes, Wikis will be > > vandalized. We're prepared to deal with that, we do deal with that. > > But what I am seeking is some efforts to

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2005-09-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
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2005-09-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
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