Re: CDR: Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-22 Thread measl
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Petro wrote: > On Saturday, November 17, 2001, at 07:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > (in my perfectly humble hate-group inspired opinion :-). It's also > > great > > fun watching Jeff and company pretend to be even dumber than your > > average > > @home luser. > >

Re: CDR: Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-21 Thread Petro
On Saturday, November 17, 2001, at 07:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (in my perfectly humble hate-group inspired opinion :-). It's also > great > fun watching Jeff and company pretend to be even dumber than your > average > @home luser. What makes you think they're pretending? --

Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-17 Thread David Honig
At 10:51 AM 11/17/01 -0800, Tim May wrote: > >One of my long-term programming heroes is Dan Ingalls, the guy who >invented BitBlt (for windowing systems) and did most of the actual >development of Smalltalk. He's still in the thick of things and is >contributing mightily. Walker of Autodesk/

Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-17 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, November 17, 2001, at 12:48 PM, John Young wrote: > If you're over 30-35 all your best stuff was done in the old > days. After that age you may think you're capable of good > work but that's just the voice of experience taking the place This depends on whether one is entering a new

Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-17 Thread John Young
If you're over 30-35 all your best stuff was done in the old days. After that age you may think you're capable of good work but that's just the voice of experience taking the place of genuine challenge when you have to solve problems to survive rather than steal from youngsters and call it your ow

Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-17 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:31:24PM -0800, Petro wrote: > Part of the energy in those days was people pushing in to vastly > new territories, figuring out how to solve the hard problems--and there > were a whole bunch back then. There are still lots of hard problems, but > they come in dri

Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-16 Thread Petro
On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 08:29 PM, Faustine wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > Tim wrote: >> The list has only 5% of the content it had in its glory years, 1992-95. >> And perhaps only 10% of its content in its declining years, 1996-98. >> It's now at about half the

Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-16 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 06:42:47PM -0500, Faustine wrote: > Actually Congress is chock full of lightweights. And all their ratty > little undereducated staffers who soak up whatever lobbyists and > their shoddy two-bit partisan "guess tanks" happen to be shilling > for this week. I know plenty of

Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-16 Thread Faustine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim wrote: >The list has only 5% of the content it had in its glory years, 1992-95. >And perhaps only 10% of its content in its declining years, 1996-98. >It's now at about half the level of its senile years, 1999-2000. This >past year has been the

Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-16 Thread Tim May
On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 03:42 PM, Faustine wrote: > > Good question. I guess it's just that I love to argue, and you could > hardly > ask for a better assortment of intelligent and colorful characters to > mix it up > with. I enjoy the back-and-forth; putting out documents people here

Re: "Rigorous and objective" (if at first...)

2001-11-16 Thread Faustine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gil wrote: Faustine writes: >Tim wrote: > > >Besides the above points, a "rigorous and objective analysis" is work > >for bean counters...and is only interesting to other bean counters. >So von Neumann, Kahn, Schelling and Nash are boring, huh. >I'd r