On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Anonymous wrote:
There is a reason why the peer review process and the academic journals
are still needed. Online preprint archives are useless for the layman.
Laymen don't read online preprint archives. They stick with popular
science stuff (I read Science).
If you're
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Ken Brown wrote:
PS in English these are moral rights - morale is borrowed from
French and means the mental state of an army :-)
Actually it means their willingness to continue to fight. Whether they are
happy about it or not is irrelevant.
--
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:27:04AM -0700, Mike Rosing wrote:
simply dispose of the work, or use it as kindling in his fireplace, once
he no longer desires to own it. No, you can't just burn that painting
you bought from some street corner painter five years ago. Though you
are permitted
Steve Furlong wrote:
My experience with scientific journals is more than a few years old. Do
any of youse have personal experience with publishing both several
years ago and recently?
In practice these days many scientists put copies of their stuff on
personal or institutional websites,
From: Mike Rosing[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Lucky Green wrote:
The other half of the shears cutting away at the public's right to
entertain themselves with the artwork they purchased in any way they
please is represented by parts of the art culture of
Lucky Green wrote:
Peter wrote:
(Hmm, I wonder if it can be argued that making stuff intended
for public distribution inaccessible violates the creator's
moral rights? I know that doesn't apply in the US, but in
other countries it might work. Moral rights can't be
assigned, so
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 07:45:18AM -0700, Mike Rosing wrote:
if used differently, the morale rights part could well be used to put
a limit on the corporate abuse of copyright. for example, I could
envision an argument that an artist sues the RIAA for abusing his
copyrighted works for
Ken Brown[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Trei, Peter wrote:
As an example, consider the Richard Serra's 'Tilted Arc', a 12 foot
high, 120 foot long, 70 ton slab of rusty (and usually grafitti covered)
steel which blocked the entrance to the main Federal building in
lower Manhatten for
Tom wrote:
[...]
- publication
the creator can control if and how his work gets published. only he may
cite from or describe his work in public as long as neither the work
nor a description of it are published with his permission.
(e.g. even the publisher can't leak stuff without
Greg Newby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Some electronic journals, some conferences and some print journals now let
authors retain copyright or, if they keep copyright, allow authors to do what
they please with their work.
Usenix is really good with this. You agree not to re-publish anything for a
Peter wrote:
(Hmm, I wonder if it can be argued that making stuff intended
for public distribution inaccessible violates the creator's
moral rights? I know that doesn't apply in the US, but in
other countries it might work. Moral rights can't be
assigned, so no publisher can take
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Tom wrote:
actually, as with most laws, the basic idea behind the moral rights
isn't that bad, it just got perverted.
if used differently, the morale rights part could well be used to put
a limit on the corporate abuse of copyright. for example, I could
envision an
From: Mike Rosing[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Lucky Green wrote:
The other half of the shears cutting away at the public's right to
entertain themselves with the artwork they purchased in any way they
please is represented by parts of the art culture of
Lucky Green wrote:
Peter wrote:
(Hmm, I wonder if it can be argued that making stuff intended
for public distribution inaccessible violates the creator's
moral rights? I know that doesn't apply in the US, but in
other countries it might work. Moral rights can't be
assigned, so
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 06:27:04AM -0700, Mike Rosing wrote:
simply dispose of the work, or use it as kindling in his fireplace, once
he no longer desires to own it. No, you can't just burn that painting
you bought from some street corner painter five years ago. Though you
are permitted
These laws don't really get into cyberpunks territory, because they are
about rights that are reserved to the original artist, and cannot be
transferred to publishers or distributors or record companies, and can
only be possessed by natural persons, not corporations. So (in France,
not the USA) a
Ken Brown[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
Trei, Peter wrote:
As an example, consider the Richard Serra's 'Tilted Arc', a 12 foot
high, 120 foot long, 70 ton slab of rusty (and usually grafitti covered)
steel which blocked the entrance to the main Federal building in
lower Manhatten for
T.C. May writes:
Anyone here who has not already done so should immediately type
xxx.lanl.gov into their browser. (No, the xxx is not a typo, nor is
it a porn site.)
This is where physics papers are getting published. The print journals
are surviving, barely, but I think the handwriting
Greg Newby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Some electronic journals, some conferences and some print journals now let
authors retain copyright or, if they keep copyright, allow authors to do what
they please with their work.
Usenix is really good with this. You agree not to re-publish anything for a
On Monday, June 10, 2002, at 08:55 PM, Greg Newby wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:53:05PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote:
My experience with scientific journals is more than a few years old. Do
any of youse have personal experience with publishing both several
years ago and recently?
Not
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:53:05PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote:
On Monday 10 June 2002 22:20, Jim Choate wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Jason Holt wrote:
copyright issues? Why haven't I seen other papers published on
usenet and such before going to press?
This is a joke right?
On Monday 10 June 2002 22:20, Jim Choate wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Jason Holt wrote:
copyright issues? Why haven't I seen other papers published on
usenet and such before going to press?
This is a joke right?
Copyright, they want it as the exclusive distributor which they can't
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:53:05PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote:
On Monday 10 June 2002 22:20, Jim Choate wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Jason Holt wrote:
copyright issues? Why haven't I seen other papers published on
usenet and such before going to press?
This is a joke right?
On Monday, June 10, 2002, at 08:55 PM, Greg Newby wrote:
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 10:53:05PM -0400, Steve Furlong wrote:
My experience with scientific journals is more than a few years old. Do
any of youse have personal experience with publishing both several
years ago and recently?
Not
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