Re: So many statists

2004-01-04 Thread John Young
Tim has become so proprietary about cypherpunks it's strange that he's never operated a node himself, or underwritten all of them in the generous spirit of John Gilmore. Maybe Tim has been underwriting them quietly and that accounts for his obnoxious bitching when the discourse doesn't go the way

So many statists

2004-01-04 Thread Tim May
On Jan 3, 2004, at 3:01 PM, bgt wrote: (Jeez, I just recently got back onto this list after a several-year hiatus. How the hell did so many statists ever get the idea that ubiquitous cryptography would ever further their goals? Or are they just here to distract us with statism vs liberty type

RE: So many statists...uh, who gives a crap?

2004-01-04 Thread Tyler Durden
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: So many statists Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:06:35 -0800 On Jan 3, 2004, at 3:01 PM, bgt wrote: (Jeez, I just recently got back onto this list after a several-year hiatus. How the hell did so many statists ever get the idea that ubiquitous cryptography would

So many statists

2004-01-03 Thread Tim May
On Jan 3, 2004, at 3:01 PM, bgt wrote: (Jeez, I just recently got back onto this list after a several-year hiatus. How the hell did so many statists ever get the idea that ubiquitous cryptography would ever further their goals? Or are they just here to distract us with statism vs liberty type

Re: So many statists

2004-01-03 Thread John Young
Tim has become so proprietary about cypherpunks it's strange that he's never operated a node himself, or underwritten all of them in the generous spirit of John Gilmore. Maybe Tim has been underwriting them quietly and that accounts for his obnoxious bitching when the discourse doesn't go the way

RE: So many statists...uh, who gives a crap?

2004-01-03 Thread Tyler Durden
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: So many statists Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 16:06:35 -0800 On Jan 3, 2004, at 3:01 PM, bgt wrote: (Jeez, I just recently got back onto this list after a several-year hiatus. How the hell did so many statists ever get the idea that ubiquitous cryptography would