Re: Texas oil refineries, a White Van, and Al Qaeda

2004-08-05 Thread John Young
Ken wrote: >Crazy authoritarianism. Rules for the sake of rules. They exist to >show who is boss. Like school uniforms or corporate dress codes - >the rule is made not to enforce any desirable behaviour but to >show who is where in the the hierarchy, who is able to make rules >and who has to o

Re: Texas oil refineries, a White Van, and Al Qaeda

2004-07-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 05:10:12PM -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: > The "parking lot" (read: makeout spot/planespotter parking, etc.) abut a > half mile from the end of the main runways at Lambert are now permanently > closed, and trying to pull over is an open invite for immediate attention. A simi

Re: Texas oil refineries, a White Van, and Al Qaeda

2004-07-24 Thread Peter Gutmann
"Tyler Durden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >*: A year or two ago someone posted about the blow up of Texas City back in >the early 1950s. 1947. >Apparently, some kind of tanker hit something else and set of a chain >reaction killing thousands and wiping out the town After several earlier event

Re: Texas oil refineries, a White Van, and Al Qaeda

2004-07-24 Thread Peter Gutmann
Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >HOUSTON (Reuters) - Law enforcement officials said on Monday they are looking >for a man seen taking pictures of two refineries in Texas City, Texas. At Usenix Security a few years back, we [a bunch of random security people, most of whom were foreign nationals

Re: Texas oil refineries, a White Van, and Al Qaeda

2004-07-20 Thread An Metet
>The person in question was just somebody with a weakness for industrial >architecture. The "no cameras" signs were very popular in east block countries. It was forbidden to take pictures of bridges, government buildings, airports, railway stations, industrial installations, water dams etc. The

RE: Texas oil refineries, a White Van, and Al Qaeda

2004-07-20 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Trei, Peter wrote: > I wonder if even over there people who park themselves near > airports railway statiions, obsessively noting the arrival > and departure of each vehicle, attract the attention of > security? Yes, at least here in St. Louis, Missouri, backwater of the Lat

RE: Texas oil refineries, a White Van, and Al Qaeda

2004-07-20 Thread alan
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Trei, Peter wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas Shaddack > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:48 PM > > To: Justin > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >

RE: Texas oil refineries, a White Van, and Al Qaeda

2004-07-20 Thread Trei, Peter
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas Shaddack > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 3:48 PM > To: Justin > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Texas oil refineries, a White Van, and Al Qaeda > > > >

Re: Texas oil refineries, a White Van, and Al Qaeda

2004-07-20 Thread Justin
On 2004-07-20T21:47:31+0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > > The person in question was just somebody with a weakness for industrial > architecture. You're missing the big picture: A light-skinned person with dark hair, a camera, a white van and an oil refinery, all in Shrub's home state. That's a bo

Texas oil refineries, a White Van, and Al Qaeda

2004-07-20 Thread Justin
http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/415877|top|07-19-2004::15:07|reuters.html Jul 19, 2:57 PM (ET) HOUSTON (Reuters) - Law enforcement officials said on Monday they are looking for a man seen taking pictures of two refineries in Texas City, Texas. Texas City, located on the Texas Gulf coast abo