Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-17 Thread jayh
On 16 Feb 2003 at 18:30, Nomen Nescio wrote: > Yes they are. By definition, intimidation and violence by > governments is not terrorism. The fact that the recipient is > feeling "terror" is irrelevant. Take back the language. > > > Actually that is the original, 'terrorism' as both word and con

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-16 Thread Steve Schear
At 09:54 AM 2/14/2003 -0800, Tim May wrote: I've been watching the Security Council session this morning. Positions are established. It's clear the U.S. is preparing to start a war. Nothing Blix or the other inspectors could say would stop the massive U.S. mobilization from continuing. Before

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-16 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:37 PM 2/16/2003 -0800, you wrote: The essay on Jefferson is the slightest. Bailyn draws attention to the ambiguities in his thought -- his glimpse of "what a wholly enlightened world might be" versus the compromises he made as a politician and an administrator to advance his agenda of the da

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-16 Thread Nomen Nescio
John Young wrote: > > Jefferson, Franklin, a fools' parade of alleged proponents > of freedom, all richly enjoyed the good life while extolling > the virtues of liberty and independence from entrenched power. A fools' (sic) parade of alleged proponents of freedom? I would be very interested in se

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-16 Thread John Young
Excerpts from a NY times book review today of an American history of weapons of yokel seduction: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/16/books/review/16BROOKHT.html 'To Begin the World Anew': The Founding Yokels By RICHARD BROOKHISER Of the storms of fashion that have pounded the humanities during t

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-16 Thread John Young
America's founding crackers set up a slave-owning nation, after 300 years of murdering natives, following the still alive and well European/Asiatic/African tradition of stealing from others while being doped by witchdoctors and astrologists (today's intelligence industry). Politics and economic

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-16 Thread Tom Veil
John Young wrote on February 16, 2003 at 00:54: > What intrigues about Tim's message was the implication that > the war on terrorism, by all sides, is fundamentally about > racism, although camouflaged by political and economic > drapery. As was, and is, imperialism and its bastard clone, > capita

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-15 Thread John Young
What intrigues about Tim's message was the implication that the war on terrorism, by all sides, is fundamentally about racism, although camouflaged by political and economic drapery. As was, and is, imperialism and its bastard clone, capitalism. Demonizing the enemy, whether by skin color, by cl

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-15 Thread Morlock Elloi
> I'm wondering why Cryptome decided to place thisB particular piece of > opinion.B > It is not inkeeping w/ the type of stuff I've read here before, in terms of > it being a straightB opinion piece, not a document,B federal register entry, > etc..B Why did "you" (who is that exactly, anyway?) c

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-15 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 01:07 PM, Kevin S. Van Horn wrote: Tim May wrote: The negro is transforming himself into a gutter race. Which ones? I see a very different pattern of behavior in some other parts of the world. The negro in America, of course, which is where I live. As

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-15 Thread Kevin S. Van Horn
Tim May wrote: The negro is transforming himself into a gutter race. Which ones? I see a very different pattern of behavior in some other parts of the world.

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-15 Thread John Young
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:22:30 -0800 (PST) From: E Subject: Questions To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm wondering why Cryptome decided to place thisB particular piece of opinion.B It is not inkeeping w/ the type of stuff I've read here before, in terms of it being a straightB opinion piece, not a docum

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-15 Thread Eric Cordian
John Young posts: > From: V > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:01:47 -0500 > Subject: Racism is Not Fashionable > The terminology "inner city welfare mutants" demonstrates that this > abstract is intended only for a certain segment of the people who read > your page. I always fou

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-15 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, February 15, 2003, at 05:45 PM, John Young wrote: Response and addition to: http://cryptome.org/war-reason.htm From: V To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:01:47 -0500 Subject: Racism is Not Fashionable Tim May writes.. "A war that, Allah willing, causes Washington,

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-15 Thread John Young
Response and addition to: http://cryptome.org/war-reason.htm From: V To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:01:47 -0500 Subject: Racism is Not Fashionable Tim May writes.. "A war that, Allah willing, causes Washington, D.C. to be be hit with a suitcase nuke, cleansing it of a millio

Re: The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-14 Thread Eric Murray
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 09:54:33AM -0800, Tim May wrote: > I've been watching the Security Council session this morning. Positions > are established. The French diplomat gave a wonderful speech, but its all for show. The real decisions are made in the back rooms. [..] > * The reason is clear:

The practical reason the U.S. is starting a war

2003-02-14 Thread Tim May
I've been watching the Security Council session this morning. Positions are established. It's clear the U.S. is preparing to start a war. Nothing Blix or the other inspectors could say would stop the massive U.S. mobilization from continuing. Before going further, let me say I am no friend of