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James A. Donald:
> > The remaining communists have made some psychological
> > recovery - see for example Tyler Durden's peculiar version
> > of recent history, where in his universe the communists
> > actually won and are still winning,"
Tyler Durden
> Again, you live in a world that's eve
ove it down
the throats of the Islamic world the more they will reject both us as well
as whatever we're trying to give 'em.
-TD
From: "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)
Date: Wed,
John Kelsey wrote...
The irony is that the neocons seemed to be trying to build up a kind of
mass movement mentality >in the US, which clearly has caught George Bush
and his top advisors--this wonderful notion that >we're going to go out and
civilize these heathens, bring them democracy and free
At 10:41 AM -0700 10/27/04, James A. Donald wrote:
>What worked in Afghanistan was to find some local warlord we
>could live with, someone in no hurry to get his six pack of
>virgins, someone who might want to put sacks over the heads of
>the women of his town, but had no grandiose ambitions to stu
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On 27 Oct 2004 at 9:55, Tyler Durden wrote:
> There are plenty of counter-examples to the "benefits" of US
> interventionism, particularly throughout central America.
We saw that when the Soviet Union fell, the US lost interest in
central America, and peace and democracy broke out in cent
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"R.A. Hettinga"
> > This is actually the running fantasy in Marxism since the
> > 1950's, when it turned out that that, instead of the
> > "workers" eating the "bourgeoisie" by the firelight or some
> > Glorious Revolution or another, would instead be come
> > "bourgeoisie" themselves.
John
>From: "R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Oct 27, 2004 9:37 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)
...
>This is actually the running fantasy in Marxism since the 1950's, when it
>turned out tha
At 9:10 PM -0700 10/26/04, James A. Donald wrote:
>fantasy that the US attacked Korea, and
>attacked to impose poverty on Koreans so that the US can be
>rich,
This is actually the running fantasy in Marxism since the 1950's, when it
turned out that that, instead of the "workers" eating the "bourge
Mr Donald wrote...
A claim that presupposes that the west is just as totalitarian
as its enemies, that well known reality is not to be trusted,
that newsmen and historians are servants of the vast capitalist
conspiracy, so in place of obvious truths, we can substitute
any ridiculous fantasy that we
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 21:10 -0700, James A. Donald wrote:
> > --
> > James A. Donald:
> > > > Moral equivalence, the rationale of those who defend
> > > > tyranny and slavery.
> >
> > Roy M. Silvernail
> > > Moral superiority, the rationale of
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 21:10 -0700, James A. Donald wrote:
> --
> James A. Donald:
> > > Moral equivalence, the rationale of those who defend
> > > tyranny and slavery.
>
> Roy M. Silvernail
> > Moral superiority, the rationale of both sides of any given
> > violent conflict. The winner gets
--
James A. Donald:
> > Moral equivalence, the rationale of those who defend
> > tyranny and slavery.
Roy M. Silvernail
> Moral superiority, the rationale of both sides of any given
> violent conflict. The winner gets to use the victory to
> proclaim the correctness of their interpretation
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 18:38 -0400, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
> At 6:23 PM -0400 10/26/04, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
> >Moral superiority, the rationale of both sides of any given violent
> >conflict. The winner gets to use the victory to proclaim the
> >correctness of their interpretation. When the con
At 6:23 PM -0400 10/26/04, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
>Moral superiority, the rationale of both sides of any given violent
>conflict. The winner gets to use the victory to proclaim the
>correctness of their interpretation. When the conflict is of a historic
>scale, the loser is often too dead to ob
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 14:19 -0700, James A. Donald wrote:
> Moral equivalence, the rationale of those who defend tyranny
> and slavery.
Moral superiority, the rationale of both sides of any given violent
conflict. The winner gets to use the victory to proclaim the
correctness of their interpreta
Moral equivalence, the rationale of those who defend tyranny
and slavery.
Exactly.
-TD
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On 25 Oct 2004 at 21:03, Tyler Durden wrote:
> The point is this: Almost and "side" in this world that has
> committed or commits atrocities can find a true-believing
> apolegist.
Moral equivalence, the rationale of those who defend tyranny
and slavery.
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James A. Dona
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Subject: Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:59:56 -0700
--
J.A. Terranson:
> > > So if I was to go out tomorrow and spread 2000 curies of
> > > Ci into t
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J.A. Terranson:
> > > So if I was to go out tomorrow and spread 2000 curies of
> > > Ci into the local subway system "As payback for Ruby
> > > Ridge", this would not be an act of terrorism?
James A. Donald:
> > That would be terrorism, because regardless of what you
> > *said* your intent
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote:
> James A. Donald:
> > > Bin Laden's intent was to make anyone in America afraid -
> > > thus the use of airliners, rather than truck bombs.
> > > McViegh's intent was to make BATF afraid.
>
> J.A. Terranson:
> > This is idiotic. You're claiming that t
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James A. Donald:
> > Bin Laden's intent was to make anyone in America afraid -
> > thus the use of airliners, rather than truck bombs.
> > McViegh's intent was to make BATF afraid.
J.A. Terranson:
> This is idiotic. You're claiming that the definition of
> "terrorist" is dependent not o
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote:
> James A. Donald:
> > > McViegh did not target innocents. Bin Laden did target
> > > innocents.
>
> Roy M. Silvernail
> > I'm confused. Is Mr. Donald saying McVeigh did not surveil
> > his target sufficiently to know that there was a day care
> > cen
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James A. Donald:
> > McViegh did not target innocents. Bin Laden did target
> > innocents.
Roy M. Silvernail
> I'm confused. Is Mr. Donald saying McVeigh did not surveil
> his target sufficiently to know that there was a day care
> center in the damage pattern?
Bin Laden's intent was
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Roy M. Silvernail wrote:
> > McViegh did not target innocents. Bin Laden did target
> > innocents.
>
> I'm confused.
So is Mr. Donald.
> Is Mr. Donald saying McVeigh did not surveil his target
> sufficiently to know that there was a day care center in the damage
> pattern
On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 03:43 -0700, James A. Donald wrote:
> McViegh did not target innocents. Bin Laden did target
> innocents.
I'm confused. Is Mr. Donald saying McVeigh did not surveil his target
sufficiently to know that there was a day care center in the damage
pattern? Or is he saying it
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On 23 Oct 2004 at 22:58, Adam wrote:
> I am curious, Mr. Donald, how exactly you define the word
> "terrorist". I request that your definition be generic; i.e.
> not a definition like "anyone who attacks the US".On 23 Oct
> 2004 at 22:58, Adam wrote: I am curious, Mr. Donald, how
> exactly y
I am curious, Mr. Donald, how exactly you define the word "terrorist". I
request that your definition be generic; i.e. not a definition like
"anyone who attacks the US".
I'd be willing to bet that you cannot provide a clear generic definition
of "terrorist". Moreover, I can guarantee that you cann
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On 22 Oct 2004 at 21:08, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Taiwan is a particularly odd example...it definitely has
> started forming a modern economy, but then again it had many
> decades of oppression. It also had swiped billions upon
> billions of dollars of gold and other substances that backed
> th
To: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:59:26 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Oct 19, 2004 10:23 AM
>To: [EMAIL
>From: Tyler Durden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Oct 19, 2004 10:23 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: US Retardation of Free Markets (was Airport insanity)
...
>In developing markets the US track record is terrible. The more we interfere
>and set u
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On 19 Oct 2004 at 10:23, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Most Cypherpunks would agree that free markets are a good
> thing. Basically, if you leave people alone, they'll figure
> out how to meet the needs that are out in there and, in the
> process, get a few of the goodies available to us as vapors
>
On 18 Oct 2004 at 15:31, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Aside from that, your posts are completely saturated with the
> "They're more evil than we are therefore it's OK for us to be
> fuckin them over" logic.
They are more evil that we are, as demonstrated by their
propensity to kill all sorts of people, in
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