Re: biological systems and cryptography

2003-01-02 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Eugen Leitl wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > What's the latest news on Adelman's cryptological > > soup? Once his DNA crypto was touted as a > > substantial breakthrough for crypto, though since > > overshadowed by quantum crypto smoke-blowing. > > DN

Re: biological systems and cryptography

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Michael Cardenas wrote: > People do break cyphers, by finding weaknesses in them. Are you saying > that you think that current cyphers are unbreakable? > > Also, what about using biological systems to create strong cyphers, > not to break them? We do pretty good already don't

Re: biological systems and cryptography

2003-01-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Michael Cardenas wrote: > People do break cyphers, by finding weaknesses in them. Are you saying > that you think that current cyphers are unbreakable? People break cyphers by 1) cryptoanalysis (mostly brain, a bit of muscle) 2) brute force (no brain at all, pure muscle) So

Re: biological systems and cryptography

2003-01-01 Thread Michael Cardenas
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 12:23:51PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote: > > >How do you all see the future use of biologically based systems > >affecting cryptography in general? > > > >By biologically based systems I mean machine learning, ge

Re: biological systems and cryptography

2003-01-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What's the latest news on Adelman's cryptological > soup? Once his DNA crypto was touted as a > substantial breakthrough for crypto, though since > overshadowed by quantum crypto smoke-blowing. DNA computes very slowly; it's bound by viscous drag and

Re: biological systems and cryptography

2003-01-01 Thread jya
What's the latest news on Adelman's cryptological soup? Once his DNA crypto was touted as a substantial breakthrough for crypto, though since overshadowed by quantum crypto smoke-blowing. http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/crypto/1999-q4/0257.html Isn't it a given that crypto is never free o

Re: biological systems and cryptography

2002-12-31 Thread Bill Stewart
At 11:41 AM 12/31/2002 -0800, Michael Cardenas wrote: I only ask this because I'm deciding whether to study computational neuroscience or cryptography in grad school. Are you planning to get a PhD and/or do research, or just a terminal master's degree to do engineering? If you're planning to do

Re: biological systems and cryptography

2002-12-31 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, December 31, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Michael Cardenas wrote: How do you all see the future use of biologically based systems affecting cryptography in general? By biologically based systems I mean machine learning, genetic algorithms, chips that learn (like Carver Mead's work), neural ne

biological systems and cryptography

2002-12-31 Thread Michael Cardenas
How do you all see the future use of biologically based systems affecting cryptography in general? By biologically based systems I mean machine learning, genetic algorithms, chips that learn (like Carver Mead's work), neural networks, vecor support machines, associative memory, etc. It seems to m