unintended consequences: Davis recall leads to US internal passports

2003-09-10 Thread Major Variola (ret.)
Licenses as IDs at airports questioned WASHINGTON  Federal officials and lawmakers raised serious concerns Tuesday about the continued use of driver's licenses at airports and U.S. borders in light of California's new law allowing illegal immigrants to obtain the widely accepted means of identifi

Re: unintended consequences: Davis recall leads to US internal passports

2003-09-10 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 09:38 AM, Major Variola (ret.) wrote: Licenses as IDs at airports questioned WASHINGTON  Federal officials and lawmakers raised serious concerns Tuesday about the continued use of driver's licenses at airports and U.S. borders in light of California's new l

Re: unintended consequences: Davis recall leads to US internal passports

2003-09-10 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:53 AM 9/10/03 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: >California's law against Driving While Speaking Spanish is only >about 10 years old, and was a Pete Wilson thing. >It happened about when I moved here - did other states start >doing similar things in the mean time? >The Feds started bullying states i

Re: unintended consequences: Davis recall leads to US internal passports

2003-09-10 Thread Bill Stewart
Major Variola (ret.) wrote: Licenses as IDs at airports questioned WASHINGTON  Federal officials and lawmakers raised serious concerns Tuesday about the continued use of driver's licenses at airports and U.S. borders in light of California's new law allowing illegal immigrants to obtain the widel

Re: unintended consequences: Davis recall leads to US internal passports

2003-09-10 Thread Bill Stewart
Major Variola (ret) wrote: I've read that to enter a Fed building you need "ID". I'm curious what happens if you haven't got it. Adrian Lamo had his card. I'm currently ignoring the conscription notices I get from the local jury droids; if I *volunteer* someday (after reviewing fija.org) I'll be

Re: unintended consequences: Davis recall leads to US internal passports

2003-09-10 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 03:38 PM, Bill Stewart wrote: But if you're ignoring jury conscription notices at times that it's not seriously interfering with your business activities, you should go check out FIJA.org. Remember that under the common law, a juror has the power and responsi

Re: unintended consequences: Davis recall leads to US internal passports

2003-09-10 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 02:02 PM, Major Variola (ret) wrote: I've read that to enter a Fed building you need "ID". I'm curious what happens if you haven't got it. Adrian Lamo had his card. I'm currently ignoring the conscription notices I get from the local jury droids; if I *vol

Re: unintended consequences: Davis recall leads to US internal passports

2003-09-10 Thread John Young
Don't ever respond to a jury summons by showing up or calling in. If you do then you'll forever be in the sucker-responsive data base. The warnings in summons are shinola shit, effective only on those who are indoctrinated to fear official warnings printed on paper. If you get a summons in the f

Re: unintended consequences: Davis recall leads to US internal passports

2003-09-12 Thread Bill Stewart
J.A. Terranson wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2003, John Young wrote: Don't ever respond to a jury summons by showing up or calling in. If you do then you'll forever be in the sucker-responsive data base. Well, as the button says, "Any 12 people who can't get off jury duty aren't *my* peers" Aside from

Re: unintended consequences: Davis recall leads to US internal passports

2003-09-11 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 03:38 PM 9/10/03 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: >(And it's probably a bit too much cognitive dissidence for them >if you simultaneously want a parking pass for your car >and don't have your DL because you took the bus :-) The DL stays in the car, the only place it is needed. I've heard that during