Re: Hollywood Hackers

2002-07-31 Thread A.Melon
Jack Lloyd wrote: >On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Steve Schear wrote: > >> Looks amazingly familiar. Could it be, could be, could it be Mojo >> Nation (now MNet http://mnet.sourceforge.net )? > >Or OpenCM (http://www.opencm.org) > -Jack On the OpenCM webpage, it proclaims on the right hand side:

Re: Pizza with a credit card

2002-07-31 Thread Michael Motyka
> > One useful piece of advice: > > > > Don't but pizza with a credit card: > > SNIP > > > > Course all those terrorists buying their pizzas with cash get away clean. > > > I've wondered for years how much longer this > will be allowed. Cash is still viable. Not > as viable as it was 10, or ev

Re: Challenge to David Wagner on TCPA

2002-07-31 Thread xganon
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:10:26 +0100, you wrote: > > On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, at 04:51 am, James A. Donald wrote: > On 29 Jul 2002 at 15:35, AARG! Anonymous wrote: > both Palladium and TCPA deny that they are designed to restrict > what applications you run. The TPM FAQ at > http://www.trusted

document popularity estimation / amortizable hashcash (Re: Hollywood Hackers)

2002-07-31 Thread Adam Back
I proposed a construct which could be used for this application: called "amortizable hashcash". http://www.cypherspace.org/hashcash/amortizable.pdf The application I had in mind was also file sharing. (This was sometime in Mar 2000). I described this problem as the "disitrbuted documen

Re: Hollywood Hackers

2002-07-31 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald: > > The plan, already implemented, is to flood file sharing > > systems with bogus files or broken files. The solution, not > > yet implemented, is to attach digital signatures to files, and > > have the file sharing software recognize certain signatures as > > good or bad

Re: Hollywood Hackers

2002-07-31 Thread Jack Lloyd
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Steve Schear wrote: > Looks amazingly familiar. Could it be, could be, could it be Mojo > Nation (now MNet http://mnet.sourceforge.net )? Or OpenCM (http://www.opencm.org) -Jack

Re: Challenge to David Wagner on TCPA

2002-07-31 Thread James A. Donald
-- 29 Jul 2002 at 15:35, AARG! Anonymous wrote: > > > both Palladium and TCPA deny that they are designed to > > > restrict what applications you run. James A. Donald: > > They deny that intent, but physically they have that > > capability. On 31 Jul 2002 at 16:10, Nicko van Someren wrote:

Re: Hollywood Hackers

2002-07-31 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 31 Jul 2002 at 11:01, Eugen Leitl wrote: > The issue of node reputation is completely orthogonal to the > document hashes not colliding. Reputation based systems are > useful, because document URI > http://localhost:4711/f70539bb32961f3d7dba42a9c51442c1218a9100 > doesn't say what's in t

White House Sounds Call For New Internet Standards

2002-07-31 Thread Steve Schear
WHITE HOUSE SOUNDS CALL FOR NEW INTERNET STANDARDS The Bush administration's cyber security czar, Richard Clarke, said it might be time to replace the "creaky, cranky" 20-year-old protocols that drive the Internet with standards better able to accommodate a flood of new wireless devices. Wireless

Re: Challenge to David Wagner on TCPA

2002-07-31 Thread Peter Fairbrother
> AARG! Anonymous wrote: > James Donald wrote: >> On 29 Jul 2002 at 15:35, AARG! Anonymous wrote: >>> both Palladium and TCPA deny that they are designed to restrict >>> what applications you run. The TPM FAQ at >>> http://www.trustedcomputing.org/docs/TPM_QA_071802.pdf reads >> >> They deny th

Re: Hollywood Hackers

2002-07-31 Thread Graham Lally
Anonymous wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:51:24 -0700, you wrote: > >>When we approve a file, all the people who approved it already get >>added to our trust list, thus helping us select files, and we are >>told that so and so got added to our list of people who recommend >>good files. This give

Re: A Q&A exchange between me and Eugene Volokh

2002-07-31 Thread A.Melon
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:50:35 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > > A Q&A exchange between me and Eugene Volokh: > [Eugene's responses in square brackets.] > > The topic was Gilmore v. Ashcroft -- FAA ID Challenge in which John > Gilmore is suing the Feds to be allowed to fly domestically without ID. > > So,

Re: Challenge to David Wagner on TCPA

2002-07-31 Thread Declan McCullagh
I imagine there's a world of difference between "will" and "would." -Declan On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 03:35:32PM -0700, AARG!Anonymous wrote: > Can you find anything in this spec that would do what David Wagner says > above, restrict what applications you could run? Despite studying this > spec

RE: Challenge to David Wagner on TCPA

2002-07-31 Thread Trei, Peter
> AARG! Anonymous[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes: > Declan McCullagh writes at > http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107-946890.html: > >"The world is moving toward closed digital rights management systems >where you may need approval to run programs," says David Wagner, >an assistant professo

Re: A Q&A exchange between me and Eugene Volokh

2002-07-31 Thread Steve Schear
At 08:06 AM 7/31/2002 -0700, A.Melon wrote: >"What do you have to hide?" If I have nothing to hide, nobody wants to know. steve

Re: Challenge to David Wagner on TCPA

2002-07-31 Thread Nicko van Someren
On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, at 04:51 am, James A. Donald wrote: > On 29 Jul 2002 at 15:35, AARG! Anonymous wrote: >> both Palladium and TCPA deny that they are designed to restrict >> what applications you run. The TPM FAQ at >> http://www.trustedcomputing.org/docs/TPM_QA_071802.pdf reads >> ..

Re: Hollywood Hackers

2002-07-31 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Anonymous wrote: > Such an approach suffers from the "bad guy" occasionally signing a > good file, thus placing himself on the trusted signer list. This assumes a boolean trust metric. What you need is a trust scalar, and a mechanism to prevent Malory poisoning it. It should

Re: Hollywood Hackers

2002-07-31 Thread Steve Schear
At 11:01 AM 7/31/2002 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: >On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, James A. Donald wrote: > > > The plan, already implemented, is to flood file sharing systems with > > bogus files or broken files. The solution, not yet implemented, is to > > attach digital signatures to files, and have the fi

Re: Challenge to David Wagner on TCPA

2002-07-31 Thread Jay Sulzberger
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, James A. Donald wrote: > -- > > > On 29 Jul 2002 at 15:35, AARG! Anonymous wrote: > > both Palladium and TCPA deny that they are designed to restrict > > what applications you run. The TPM FAQ at > > http://www.trustedcomputing.org/docs/TPM_QA_071802.pdf reads > > >

Re: Challenge to David Wagner on TCPA

2002-07-31 Thread AARG! Anonymous
James Donald wrote: > On 29 Jul 2002 at 15:35, AARG! Anonymous wrote: > > both Palladium and TCPA deny that they are designed to restrict > > what applications you run. The TPM FAQ at > > http://www.trustedcomputing.org/docs/TPM_QA_071802.pdf reads > > They deny that intent, but physically they

Re: Challenge to David Wagner on TCPA

2002-07-31 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 29 Jul 2002 at 15:35, AARG! Anonymous wrote: > both Palladium and TCPA deny that they are designed to restrict > what applications you run. The TPM FAQ at > http://www.trustedcomputing.org/docs/TPM_QA_071802.pdf reads > They deny that intent, but physically they have that capa

Re: Choate's Freedom to Dissociate

2002-07-31 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > At 07:59 PM 7/29/02 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: > >On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Eric Murray wrote: > >> Your ISP may be blocking mail from Ssz to you. > > > >Sue their ass your right to free association is being violated! > > Um, right after we finish sue

Re: Hollywood Hackers

2002-07-31 Thread Anonymous
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:51:24 -0700, you wrote: > When we approve a file, all the people who approved it already get > added to our trust list, thus helping us select files, and we are > told that so and so got added to our list of people who recommend > good files. This gives people an incentive

Re: Hollywood Hackers

2002-07-31 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 29 Jul 2002 at 14:25, Duncan Frissell wrote: > Congressman Wants to Let Entertainment Industry Get Into Your > Computer > > Rep. Howard L. Berman, D-Calif., formally proposed > legislation that would give the industry unprecedented new > authority to secretly hack

Re: Hollywood Hackers

2002-07-31 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, James A. Donald wrote: > The plan, already implemented, is to flood file sharing systems with > bogus files or broken files. The solution, not yet implemented, is to > attach digital signatures to files, and have the file sharing software > recognize certain signatures as go