Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 06:31:56PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: > > "I'm not so sure this emperor could handle psycedelics. Might > > break the robotic connections" > > > > Arguably, 9/11 was a bad trip, and now we're completely freaking out. > > > >

Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 06:31:56PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: > "I'm not so sure this emperor could handle psycedelics. Might > break the robotic connections" > > Arguably, 9/11 was a bad trip, and now we're completely freaking out. > Except that there are so few of those no one has ever be

Re: Trap guns, black baggers, and "Arlington Road"

2003-02-10 Thread Tim May
On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 12:00 PM, Eric Cordian wrote: Tim writes: With USAPATRIOT and HOMESEC REICHSPROTEKTION acts authorizing black bag jobs, break-ins, planting of evidence, keystroke-logging, administrative rubber-stamp warrants (no judge, just a GS-8 or higher saying "Go for it!

Re: Dell Dude Arrested for Pot

2003-02-10 Thread Tim May
On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 01:53 PM, Eric Cordian wrote: Oh, the Humanity... http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/02/10/dell.dude.arrest/index.html - NEW YORK (CNN) -- Benjamin Curtis, better known as the "Dell Dude" from the computer company's television commercials, was arrested Sunday wh

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2003-02-10 Thread Harmon Seaver
Why are they so focused upon and clearly attemting to persecute the Left Wing? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com

Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Tyler Durden
"I'm not so sure this emperor could handle psycedelics. Might break the robotic connections" Arguably, 9/11 was a bad trip, and now we're completely freaking out. -TD _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months

RE:Trap guns, black baggers, and "Arlington Road"

2003-02-10 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> Black baggers generally have to get in and out quickly with incomplete > knowledge of your situation. Doing a thorough reverse-engineer of you > location is usually not an option for them. Physical security. Litter the area with cameras, possibly in several mutually independent networks. It is i

Dell Dude Arrested for Pot

2003-02-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Oh, the Humanity... http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/02/10/dell.dude.arrest/index.html - NEW YORK (CNN) -- Benjamin Curtis, better known as the "Dell Dude" from the computer company's television commercials, was arrested Sunday while he allegedly attempted to buy marijuana on Manhattan's lower ea

RE:Trap guns, black baggers, and "Arlington Road"

2003-02-10 Thread jayh
The best approach is stealth. On the machine, for example, a device driver that quietly sets a flag if an unprompted passphrase is not entered in a specific time. This would help tell if any black bag software has been hurriedly placed on the machine. In the physical world, comparable bugs tha

Re: Trap guns, black baggers, and "Arlington Road"

2003-02-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Tim writes: > With USAPATRIOT and HOMESEC REICHSPROTEKTION acts authorizing black bag > jobs, break-ins, planting of evidence, keystroke-logging, > administrative rubber-stamp warrants (no judge, just a GS-8 or higher > saying "Go for it!'), it's time to revisit the issue of trap guns and > bo

Re: The Space Shuttle's Secret Military Mission

2003-02-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Mike Rosing writes: > I love conspiricy theory! Take totally unrelated stuff, mix it together > and voila - instant evil! The article is total nonsense. For instance, Americium-242 has a half life of 150 years, and decays through isomeric transition. It looks like disinformation trawled unde

Re: Patriot II would outlaw encryption

2003-02-10 Thread professor rat
"knowingly and willfully uses > encryption technology to conceal any incriminating > communication" relating to a federal crime that they're > committing, or attempting to commit". So like I've been saying,it's better to just say KILL the PRESIDENT out loud in public,sure they have made an exam

Re: Putting the "NSA Data Overwrite Standard" Legend to Death...(fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread Sunder
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Jim Choate wrote: > On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Sunder wrote: > > > No shit Sherlock, that's the whole point! > > Actually it's not, the point is to stop the attacker in their tracks. Sigh, I don't know why I'm bothering to write anything your clueless way... he we go. We're guar

Trap guns, black baggers, and "Arlington Road"

2003-02-10 Thread Tim May
On Monday, February 10, 2003, at 03:25 AM, David Howe wrote: The solution is only applicable to cold or moderately tamper-proofed systems, to prevent analysis of such systems if confiscated. It can only become a serious component in an overall scheme, but this is universally true - there is no

[p2p-hackers] PET2003 (Mar 26-28) accepted papers (fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:45:23 -0500 From: Roger Dingledine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [p2p-hackers] PET2003 (Mar 26-28) accepted papers The followin

RE: Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

2003-02-10 Thread Trei, Peter
> Bill Frantz[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] > Unfortunately having started to question the relation between the pledge > and the ideals of the country, I started to wonder why I was pledging to > the flag, instead of the country. So over the years, I have a somewhat > edited version (remov

Re: The Space Shuttle's Secret Military Mission

2003-02-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > http://www.aci.net/kalliste/columbia_spectral.htm I love conspiricy theory! Take totally unrelated stuff, mix it together and voila - instant evil! The problem with this article is that it uses a reference (to a really cool idea BTW) for a nuclea

Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 02:43:22PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: > On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > > http://www.dailyrotten.com/source-docs/patriot2draft.html > > terrorism is at least as dangerous to the United States' national security > > as drug offenses > > That's a good find! P

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Re: Patriot II would outlaw encryption

2003-02-10 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
> actually..noit isn't my bust. it is yours. > > it says: > > "knowingly and willfully uses > encryption technology to conceal any incriminating > communication" relating to a federal crime that they're > committing, or attempting to commit". > > Thus, after the fact.I can send you an

Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote: >Probably what they're most scared of are drugs that open the sheeple's > minds. Psychedelics expose the nakedness of the emperor and break open the most > rigid lockstep mentality. Yup, leading robots is so much more fun than actually doing something

Re: My favorite line from the DOJ's latest draft bill

2003-02-10 Thread Sunder
My new favorite is how Rumsfeld just said that the Europe Delay to give the inspectors more time will INCREASE the chance of war Uh huh... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,78003,00.html My, my, how the reptiles have evolved the ability to speak out both sides of their mouth... or more apt

Re: DOJ quietly drafts USA Patriot II w/crypto-in-a-crime penalty

2003-02-10 Thread Bill Stewart
At 02:13 PM 02/09/2003 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:36:35PM -0500, Greg Newby wrote: > "Under the new law, running shoes will be classified > as burgler's tools if their use is not authorized or > exceeds reasonable levels for leisure activity." I always thought that

Re: Putting the "NSA Data Overwrite Standard" Legend to Death...(fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Sunder wrote: > No shit Sherlock, that's the whole point! Actually it's not, the point is to stop the attacker in their tracks. > The OS doesn't boot until you type in your passphrase, plug in your USB fob, > etc. and allow it to read the key. Like, Duh! You know, you reall

Re: Putting the "NSA Data Overwrite Standard" Legend to Death... (fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Dave Howe wrote: > no, lilo is. if you you can mount a pgpdisk (say) without software, then you > are obviously much more talented than I am :) Bullshit. lilo isn't doing -anything- at that point without somebody or something (eg dongle) being present that has the -plaintext

Re: Putting the "NSA Data Overwrite Standard" Legend to Death... (fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread David Howe
at Monday, February 10, 2003 3:09 AM, Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was seen to say: > On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Dave Howe wrote: >> no, lilo is. if you you can mount a pgpdisk (say) without software, >> then you are obviously much more talented than I am :) > Bullshit. lilo isn't doing -anything- at t

Re: Putting the "NSA Data Overwrite Standard" Legend to Death...(fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread Sunder
No shit Sherlock, that's the whole point! The OS doesn't boot until you type in your passphrase, plug in your USB fob, etc. and allow it to read the key. Like, Duh! You know, you really ought to stop smoking crack. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ +