Re: Max's Lesson (was Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI)

Max wrote... "I mean, The Just-Us system's "only be for us peasants, right, massah?"." Nice little lick there. I also think that some cypherpunks mistake the Corporate State for what has been described as Crypto-Anarchy. If large corporations in the US and the wealthy happen to ultimately driv

no photography, no questions, no rights

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- On the eve of grand jury proceedings in the Michael Jackson molestation case, the presiding judge of the Santa Barbara courts barred pictures or communication with any prospective or final panelists, or grand jury witnesses. Superior Court Judge Clifford R. Anderson III did not

corporate vs. state, TD's education

At 10:26 AM 3/25/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: >I also think that some cypherpunks mistake the Corporate State for what has >been described as Crypto-Anarchy. Get this through your head: a corporation can't initiate force against you. You may not like their product, practices, or price, but no one

Mac OS X XGrid, anyone?

I downloaded XGrid yesterday, fired it up here, and noticed that, among other grid computing demo projects, it does factoring. :-). Anyone out there want to play around with this, just to see how it works? Contact me directly. , BreadPudding Cheers, RAH Cheers, RAH -- ---

RE: corporate vs. state, TD's education

Ah Variola...do I detect a wee bit of Knee-jerk in your otherwise consistently iconoclastic views? Let's take a looksee... Get this through your head: a corporation can't initiate force against you. You may not like their product, practices, or price, but no one is coercing you at gunpoint. Think

Re: corporate vs. state, TD's education

On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 02:02:25PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: > > >Get this through your head: a corporation can't initiate force against > >you. > >You may not like their product, practices, or price, but no one is > >coercing you at gunpoint. > > Think I'm gonna have to disagree with ya' hear p

RE: no photography, no questions, no rights

At 02:05 PM 3/25/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: >"In the Brinworld of Phonecams this is a nice challenge for the >freelancer... >Fuck you, Anderson III" > >All he did was raise the prices of said photos, correct? Shit...I should get >on out there and make myself a fortune... In practice, because ma

RE: corporate vs. state

At 02:02 PM 3/25/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: >Think I'm gonna have to disagree with ya' hear partner. >For one, in the old days Corporations regularly hired goons to mow down >striking coalminers and whatnot. You have no right to trespass simply because you once worked there. Neither does anyo

Re: corporate vs. state, TD's education

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Harmon Seaver wrote: >Nonsense -- corporations are not humans, they have zero rights. Unfortunately, there are a whole slew of Supreme Court decisions that say otherwise - mostly applying the 14th amendment (you know, freeing the slaves) to grant free speech and other c

Re: corporate vs. state

At 05:27 PM 3/25/04 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Harmon Seaver wrote: > >>Nonsense -- corporations are not humans, they have zero rights. > >Unfortunately, there are a whole slew of Supreme Court decisions that say >otherwise - mostly applying the 14th amendment (you kn

Re: corporate vs. state

On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 02:42:13PM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > > 2. Humans don't lose their rights when they form voluntary associations. > > That's all the corporate decisions are saying. > Humans don't lose their rights, but they also shouldn't lose their responsibility either. If

Re: corporate vs. state, TD's education

On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 05:27:14PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Harmon Seaver wrote: > > >Nonsense -- corporations are not humans, they have zero rights. > > Unfortunately, there are a whole slew of Supreme Court decisions that say > otherwise - mostly applying t

Re: corporate vs. state, TD's education

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-03-25 22:27Z) wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Harmon Seaver wrote: > > >Nonsense -- corporations are not humans, they have zero rights. > > Unfortunately, there are a whole slew of Supreme Court decisions that say > otherwise - mostly applying the 14th amendment (yo

Re: corporate vs. state, TD's education

Harmon Seaver (2004-03-25 23:06Z) wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 05:27:14PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Harmon Seaver wrote: > > > > >Nonsense -- corporations are not humans, they have zero rights. > > > > Unfortunately, there are a whole slew of Supreme C

Air-drop them on the Rat Islands

Sunday, March 21, 2004 Las Vegas Review-Journal VIN SUPRYNOWICZ: Part II: Air-drop them on the Rat Islands Last time, we were answering Michael's e-mail inquiry: "I would like to know what alternative you

Re: corporate vs. state

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 8:59 PM -0500 3/25/04, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >Boom. An anonymously-voted limited liability business entity. > >Look, ma. No state. Oh. One more thing. It'll *never* happen until the risk-adjusted (those nasty latin words ceterus paribus) cost of d

Re: corporate vs. state

At 12:39 AM 3/26/04 -, Frog wrote: >Harmon Seaver wrote: >> each and every person involved in it should be liable. > >If a member of a club, to which you belong, commits an act of violence, are you liable for that act? Excellent question. The gestap^H^H^H^H Feds think you are --membership in

Re: corporate vs. state, TD's education

On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 11:46:29PM +, Justin wrote: > > Why should it be impermissible for corporations to be "persons" under > the law when parents can be "persons" on behalf of their minor children? Why should they be? > > In both situations, one or more people are "persons" only to re

Re: corporate vs. state

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 First off, yes, corporations are creatures of the state. So, what else is new? They are an easy way to achieve limited liability. In the UK after the South Sea Bubble popped (and in France, after the same thing happened to the Mississippi Company did

expiring bearer documents

At 09:20 PM 3/25/04 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: >Fine. Make it cheaper. Moore's Law creates geodesic networks, so >let's have geodesic internet bearer transactions. Yesss! Its only taken a month or so of plonklessness, and we've got the geodesics back! :-) This recently occurred to me. There

RE: no photography, no questions, no rights

"In the Brinworld of Phonecams this is a nice challenge for the freelancer... Fuck you, Anderson III" All he did was raise the prices of said photos, correct? Shit...I should get on out there and make myself a fortune... -TD From: "Major Variola (ret.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PRO

Re: corporate vs. state

Harmon Seaver wrote: > If a "voluntary association" injures me, Associations - corporate or otherwise - are abstract, intangible entities. They don't perform actions. People do. > each and every person involved in it should be liable. If a member of a club, to which you belong, commits a