RE: US Brings Freedom of Expression to Iraq

2004-04-16 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 03:33 PM 4/15/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Ah shit I hate hearing this. Is it possible to retroactively re-cast a terrorist attack (eg, World Trade Center) into regular old, 'valid' warfare? Bush policies seem to be doing this. We are freedom fighters. They are terrorists. Any questions?

Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies

2004-04-16 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 06:41:14PM +0100, Jim Dixon wrote: Of course, most of this discussion revolves around one word: is. If you said the Internet _can be seen_ as a tree, few would disagree with you, especially if you allowed for the fact that that tree is continuously changing its shape.

Re: Vote Market

2004-04-16 Thread R. A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have one word for all of you. Equity. :-). I expect that someday we'll vote shares for the application of non-monopolistic force just like we now vote for the application of monopolist force. I think statists -- including most cryptographers

Vote Market

2004-04-16 Thread Tim Benham
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:43:57 -0700 From: Ed Gerck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: voting David Jablon wrote: I think Ed's criticism is off-target. Where is the privacy problem with Chaum receipts when Ed and others still have the freedom to refuse theirs or throw them away? The

RE: voting

2004-04-16 Thread Trei, Peter
Ed Gerck[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] John Kelsey wrote: At 11:05 AM 4/9/04 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: 1. The use of receipts which a voter takes from the voting place to 'verify' that their vote was correctly included in the total opens the way for voter coercion. I think

Re: voting

2004-04-16 Thread Ed Gerck
David Jablon wrote: I think Ed's criticism is off-target. Where is the privacy problem with Chaum receipts when Ed and others still have the freedom to refuse theirs or throw them away? The privacy, coercion, intimidation, vote selling and election integrity problems begin with giving

Re: voting

2004-04-16 Thread David Jablon
I think Ed's criticism is off-target. Where is the privacy problem with Chaum receipts when Ed and others still have the freedom to refuse theirs or throw them away? It seems a legitimate priority for a voting system to be designed to assure voters that the system is working. What I see in

RE: voting

2004-04-16 Thread Jerrold Leichter
| Currently, voter privacy is absolute in the US and does not depend | even on the will of the courts. For example, there is no way for a | judge to assure that a voter under oath is telling the truth about how | they voted, or not. This effectively protects the secrecy of the ballot | and

Re: US Brings Freedom of Expression to Iraq

2004-04-16 Thread Eric Cordian
Major Variola (ret) writes: What is bizarre about offering a contract? Get your filthy hands off my desert xor suffer for not doing same The US said the same (with a more temperate piece of real estate) to the UK, once. Apparently some need to be reminded that gentlemen don't occupy