Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 10:46:53PM -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > At 12:25 AM 6/27/04 -0500, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > >Triangluating on a non-isotropic antenna should be quite a bit > harder... > > > > Bingo. Watch your sidelobes, baby. Triangulation by signal strength is one thing, triangula

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

At 12:25 AM 6/27/04 -0500, Riad S. Wahby wrote: >Triangluating on a non-isotropic antenna should be quite a bit harder... > Bingo. Watch your sidelobes, baby.

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > "J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interestingly, some [early] models had external antenna jacks built in to > > them. > > Many still have test jacks on them. Both my old Samsung A500 and my > current Sanyo SCP-8100 have a connector (eithe

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Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote: > > > Yes, I suppose that the more technical amongst us could selctively jam > > only the one signal, however, cellular phones are mighty low power > > devices, and I would not hazard a guess as to whether it

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jamming GPS is no problem, but then they'll just triangulate you within the > cell. The only way to prevent that would be to switch off, andn to pull the > battery (unless the firmware is open source, and peer-reviewed). A little poking around on google rev

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

At 12:01 AM 6/27/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: >Interestingly, some [early] models had external antenna jacks built in to >them. Again I am a few Moore's generations behind. (Does that make me a semi-Amish atheist? Or a reformed Luddite?) Where I vacation sometimes, I would need a metallized um

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Just for the record, after writing that last missive, which reflects an experience almost 25 years old, I did some quick googling on current body armor. My experience *probably* does not hold with the latest (post 1999) fiber systems. But I still wouldn't bet my life on it. -- Yours, J.A. Ter

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

"J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You assume that Jane's only problem is equipment procurement. Alas, > Jane's biggest problem has not changed much in the last 100 years: > knowledge. Jane doesn't know this is an issue that she might need help > with. People who don't know they need

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

> At 12:41 AM 6/27/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: > >On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > > > >> At 11:56 PM 6/26/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: > >> > > >> >Hrmmm... Cell Phone. TEMPEST Case. > >> > > >> >What's wrong with this picture??? > >> > >> 1. You can't receive calls. Onl

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 02:02:24AM +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > Can it be disabled by hardware hack of the phone, a mikropower jammer, or > using an "unofficial" firmware? Jamming GPS is no problem, but then they'll just triangulate you within the cell. The only way to prevent that would be to

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Eugen Leitl wrote: > Triangulation by signal strength is one thing, triangulation by relativistic > ToF (time of flight) -- while still not present in consumer gadgets -- is far > more difficult to fool. Especially if it's tied into the protocol, that > you're getting positio

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > Eventually the cellphones will be able to tell another phone approx > where they are. [...] The marketing reason would be to help people > find others geographically. At least with GSM, the base station always knows the approximate distance to the

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

At 12:41 AM 6/27/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: >On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > >> At 11:56 PM 6/26/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: >> > >> >Hrmmm... Cell Phone. TEMPEST Case. >> > >> >What's wrong with this picture??? >> >> 1. You can't receive calls. Only make outgoing, from

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

At 11:56 PM 6/26/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: > >Hrmmm... Cell Phone. TEMPEST Case. > >What's wrong with this picture??? 1. You can't receive calls. Only make outgoing, from a location which is known to fascists. 2. Use it for your toll-road-transponder too.

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At 07:04 AM 6/27/04 +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: >On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote: > >> Yes, I suppose that the more technical amongst us could selctively jam >> only the one signal, however, cellular phones are mighty low power >> devices, and I would not hazard a guess as to whether i

For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

The New York Times June 26, 2004 For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi By MATT RICHTEL AN FRANCISCO, June 25 - Cellphones are chock-full of features like built-in cameras, personalized ring tone

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > At 11:56 PM 6/26/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: > > > >Hrmmm... Cell Phone. TEMPEST Case. > > > >What's wrong with this picture??? > > 1. You can't receive calls. Only make outgoing, from a location > which is known to fascists. Let's try agai

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

"J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interestingly, some [early] models had external antenna jacks built in to > them. Many still have test jacks on them. Both my old Samsung A500 and my current Sanyo SCP-8100 have a connector (either MC or SMA, IIRC) on the back hidden under a rubber pl

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

At 07:21 AM 6/26/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > > >The New York Times > >June 26, 2004 > >For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi >By MATT RICHTEL Eventually the cellphones will be able to tell an

Re: [IP] When police ask your name,

>At 01:53 AM 6/25/2004, Eugen Leitl wrote: >>The transcription rules for furriner names are strict, too. >>No Phn'glui M'gl wna'f, Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgha Nagl Ftaghn for you. > >Just as well. They'd probably make you fill the form out in triplicate, In his house at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits knitti

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > >> Go for the head shot, they're wearing body armor > > > >If at close range, it is far easier to simply throw water at them prior > to > >firing. For one, the water acts as apowerful lubricant, effectively > >removing the armor, > > huh? Wet ke

Re: [IP] When police ask your name,

At 01:53 AM 6/25/2004, Eugen Leitl wrote: The transcription rules for furriner names are strict, too. No Phn'glui M'gl wna'f, Cthulhu R'lyeh Wgha Nagl Ftaghn for you. Just as well. They'd probably make you fill the form out in triplicate, and that could be unwise

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote: > > > > a mikropower jammer, > > > > Only if you are willing to forego the phone as well, in which case, just > > remove the battery pack :-) > > I am assuming here that the phone has a dual receiver, one of

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

At 02:02 AM 6/27/04 +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > >Can it be disabled by hardware hack of the phone, a mikropower jammer, or >using an "unofficial" firmware? It would be hard to verify/test that you had in fact cut the correct trace, and it would depend on the phone, and you would void your warr

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

At 11:53 PM 6/26/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: > >Yes, I suppose that the more technical amongst us could selctively jam >only the one signal, however, cellular phones are mighty low power >devices, They can put half (?) a watt out, some of it absorbed by your brain and hand BTW. and I would n

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sun, 27 Jun 2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote: > > > > Eventually the cellphones will be able to tell another phone approx > > > where they are. Remember the 911-locator fascism? > > > > I hate to break the news to you Major, but GPS enabled phones cann

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

At 02:02 AM 6/27/04 +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > >Can it be disabled by hardware hack of the phone, a mikropower jammer, or >using an "unofficial" firmware? I wrote: It would be hard to verify/test that you had in fact cut the correct trace, and it would depend on the phone, and you wou

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

At 06:38 AM 6/27/04 +0200, Thomas Shaddack wrote: >If the phone is shielded, it can't transmit/receive, which makes it rather >useless. :( When you don't want to use it, why should it not be useless? >There is one potential landmine as well; the inherent ability of any >device containing resonato

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > I'm fully aware the pigs track you unless the battery is removed or you > have a TEMPEST case. I'm suggesting that regular citizens will have > access to that, if (in my cluelessness) they don't already. If the phone is shielded, it can't transm

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At 09:25 PM 6/26/04 -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > >I wrote: >It would be hard to verify/test that you had in fact cut the correct >trace, >and it would depend on the phone, and you would void your warrantee. > >Firmware hacks are of course the free man's last refuge. > >Of course

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote: > > Eventually the cellphones will be able to tell another phone approx > > where they are. Remember the 911-locator fascism? > > I hate to break the news to you Major, but GPS enabled phones cannot be > instructed to turn off the GPS feature for law en

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Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, J.A. Terranson wrote: > > a mikropower jammer, > > Only if you are willing to forego the phone as well, in which case, just > remove the battery pack :-) I am assuming here that the phone has a dual receiver, one of the GPS signal and one of the cellular service itself. As b

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > Of course disabling your GPS unit will not prevent the fascists from > doing triangulation with signal strength, ie the alternative (and > cheaper > and less precise alternative). That's merely physics and > geometry. To counter that, you need

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > >> Eventually the cellphones will be able to tell another phone approx > >> where they are. Remember the 911-locator fascism? > Do any models let YOU decide to send your location to ANOTHER > phone? Mine, an Samsung I330 PDA/Phone (actually a

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > At 07:21 AM 6/26/04 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote: > > > > > > >The New York Times > > > >June 26, 2004 > > > >For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

Re: For Liars and Loafers, Cellphones Offer an Alibi

At 06:27 PM 6/26/04 -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: >On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >> >> Eventually the cellphones will be able to tell another phone approx >> where they are. Remember the 911-locator fascism? > >I hate to break the news to you Major, but GPS enabled phones cannot b