No, Canada!

2004-11-07 Thread R.A. Hettinga
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2004/11/06/no_canada?mode=PF The Boston Globe THIS STORY HAS BEEN FORMATTED FOR EASY PRINTING No, Canada! You don't want to go there By Alex Beam, Globe Staff | November 6, 2004 You have probably heard the idle chatter: ''I'm thinking of

Re: The Values-Vote Myth

2004-11-07 Thread Pete Capelli
On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:46:17 -0500, Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, he won because some hillbilly was afraid that the guy at the local 7-11 was going to blow up his chicked farm. Those of us living close enough to Ground Zero to smell it back in those days are apprarently

RE: The Values-Vote Myth

2004-11-07 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Tyler Durden wrote: In other words, he won because some hillbilly was afraid that the guy at the local 7-11 was going to blow up his chicked farm. Precisely. So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict the American people as being complicit

Re: The Values-Vote Myth

2004-11-07 Thread Justin
On 2004-11-06T16:39:41+0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 08:46:17AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict the American people as being complicit in the crime known as Operation Of course. What kind of question

Re: The Values-Vote Myth

2004-11-07 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Justin wrote: On 2004-11-06T16:39:41+0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 08:46:17AM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: So: A 'moral values' question for Cypherpunks. Does this election indict the American people as being complicit in the crime known as

Re: The Values-Vote Myth

2004-11-07 Thread Pete Capelli
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 18:25:19 +, Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not true. much busywork math deleted Saddam had 100% turnout, and won 100% of the vote. Does that make his election more legitimate to you? -- Pete Capelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Landlside maps

2004-11-07 Thread Mercator
For the map-obsessed, this one shows the depth of support for President Feckless in the global community. Pretty goddam impressive I'd say. I takes true flair to blow off so many former clients and fair weather friends in so short a time. http://www.warrenkinsella.com/images/worldmap.jpg And oh

Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue

2004-11-07 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 09:31:24AM -0800, James Donald wrote: I routinely call people like you nazi-commies. How novel and interesting. Cut the rhetoric, get on with the program. Cypherpunks write code. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a

Re: The Values-Vote Myth

2004-11-07 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 06:25:19PM +, Justin wrote: Not true. http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/voter.turnout.ap/ [Curtis] Gans puts the total turnout at nearly 120 million people. That represents just under 60% of eligible voters... You didn't vote against a candidate, you

Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue

2004-11-07 Thread James Donald
-- John Young wrote: Commie is the term used here like is nazi used elsewhere as the most fearsome if thoughtless epithet. Nazi here is a term of endearment, and also admirable role model by some. Calling someone both is not allowed, check the FAQ under impurity. I routinely call people

Re: No, Canada!

2004-11-07 Thread John Young
Fair enough. Canada is a role model for the US, as is the US for the world: nobody is wanted unless they are willing to pay for the mistakes and messes the locals have made, or best, work for starvation wages, usually off the books, long the prime source of penal-grade labor in the Echelon

Re: In a Sky Dark With Arrows, Death Rained Down

2004-11-07 Thread James A. Donald
-- Peter Gutmann wrote: That's the traditional Agincourt interpretation. More modern ones (backed up by actual tests with arrows of the time against armour, in which the relatively soft metal of the arrows was rather ineffective against the armour) I find this very hard to believe. Post

Re: No, Canada!

2004-11-07 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 11:42 AM -0800 11/6/04, John Young wrote: capitalist There you go, speaking marxist again... ;-) Cheers, RAH Capitalism is totalitarian for economics... -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44

Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue

2004-11-07 Thread James A. Donald
-- James Donald: I routinely call people like you nazi-commies. Eugen Leitl wrote: How novel and interesting. Cut the rhetoric, get on with the program. Cypherpunks write code. I also write code, unlike people like you. See for example www.echeque.com/Kong --digsig James A.

Supreme Court Issues

2004-11-07 Thread Justin
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/07/politics/07court.html?partner=ALTAVISTA1pagewanted=print We're going to get some extremist anti-abortion, pro-internment, anti-1A, anti-4A, anti-5A, anti-14A, right-wing wacko. Imagine Ashcroft as Chief Justice. I really hope I'm wrong. What happens when the

Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue

2004-11-07 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 8:08 PM +0100 11/6/04, Eugen Leitl wrote: Cypherpunks write code. Right. That's it. Wanna write me a bearer mint? For free? ;-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street,

Re: This Memorable Day

2004-11-07 Thread John Young
The US made a bundle from WW1 and WW2 warfare, in both cases being rescued from an economic slump, and some have argued the US delayed sending troops as long as possible to extend the demand for supplies, supplies which appeared to always be insufficient but enough to keep the warring parties

Re: Broward machines count backward

2004-11-07 Thread Sunder
It sounds suspiciously like an int16 issue. 32K is close enough to 32767 after which a 16 bit integer goes negative when incremented. Which is odd because it should roll over, not count backwards. perhaps they did something like this: note the use of abs on reporting. int16

Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue

2004-11-07 Thread Chris Kuethe
Fun bits to read, somewhat related to Owell and the perceived notional differences between various... extremists. http://www.campusprogram.com/reference/en/wikipedia/f/fa/fascism.html http://www.k-1.com/Orwell/site/opinion/essays/storgaard1.html

Re: Why Americans Hate Democrats-A Dialogue

2004-11-07 Thread R.A. Hettinga
At 9:31 AM -0800 11/6/04, James Donald wrote: As George Orwell observed, anyone who thinks there is a significant difference between nazis and commies is in favor of one or the other. I'm going to have hunt that one up for my .sig file. Thank you. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A.

Re: The Values-Vote Myth

2004-11-07 Thread R.A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 6:25 PM + 11/6/04, Justin wrote: 65m/141m = 46% of registered voters voted for Bush Of course, you can invert the math and say the same about Kerry, plus Bush's 3-something million margin, I'm afraid. Hell, Rush said exactly the same thing on

Re: The Values-Vote Myth

2004-11-07 Thread Sarad AV
--- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When asked about the issue that most influenced their vote, voters were given the option of saying moral values. But that phrase can mean anything - or nothing. Who doesn't vote on moral values? If you ask an inept question, you get a misleading

L/Cs, e-gold and regulated banking

2004-11-07 Thread Ian Grigg
(Guys, this has drifted out of crypto into finance, so I have a feeling that it will disappear of the crypto list. But the topics that are raised are interesting and important enough to carry on, I think.) [Hal:] Interesting. In the e-gold case, both parties have the same bank, e-gold

Re: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-07 Thread Ian Grigg
Enzo Michelangeli writes: In the world of international trade, where mutual distrust between buyer and seller is often the rule and there is no central authority to enforce the law, this is traditionally achieved by interposing not less than three trusted third parties: the shipping line,

Re: The Values-Vote Myth

2004-11-07 Thread Eric Cordian
J.A. Terranson wrote: The fact is that those who did not vote effectively voted for Shrub. You are either part of the solution or you are part of the problem. Inaction is not good enough. This would only be true if the President were elected by popular vote. In states where one candidate

Re: In a Sky Dark With Arrows, Death Rained Down

2004-11-07 Thread James A. Donald
-- Peter Gutmann wrote: That's the traditional Agincourt interpretation. More modern ones (backed up by actual tests with arrows of the time against armour, in which the relatively soft metal of the arrows was rather ineffective against the armour) You have this garbled. According to

Re: Your source code, for sale

2004-11-07 Thread Enzo Michelangeli
- Original Message - From: Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hal Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 11:21 AM [Hal:] Interesting. In the e-gold case, both parties have the same bank, e-gold ltd. The