Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, James A. Donald wrote: > On 11 Dec 2004 at 8:29, J.A. Terranson wrote: > > Looking out of my fifth floor window I can connect to ~20 > > 802.x nets *without* directional antennas or high powered > > cards. With extra gear, I can hit almost 50, and in both > > cases, roughly

Gary Webb dies - reported on CIA Cocaine Connections

2004-12-13 Thread Bill Stewart
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/peninsula/10399522.htm http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/11745531p-12630606c.html (AP Storty) Gary Webb, 49, former Mercury News reporter, author INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST WROTE CONTROVERSIAL SERIES By Jessica Portner Mercu

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread Adam Shostack
On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 10:24:09PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: | * R. A. Hettinga quotes a news article: | | > There have been numerous media reports in recent years that terrorist | > groups, including al-Qaida, were using steganographic techniques. | | As far as I know, these news stories can

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 06:01 PM 12/11/04 +, Justin wrote: >On 2004-12-11T06:48:41-0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >> Mixmaster is the most godawful complex thing to use, much less >> administer, around. Even Jack B Nymble is complex. It needs a simple >> luser interface and something to piggyback servers on. >

Re: To the Computer, You're Still Beautiful

2004-12-13 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, R.A. Hettinga wrote: > computer chip. In airports and at border crossings, a machine will read the > chip to see if the information there matches the bearer's face. But the > machine can be flummoxed by smiles, which introduce teeth, wrinkles, seams > and other distortions.

Gentlemen don't read each others' mail.. bush no gman

2004-12-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Anyone surprised that the US spooks are admitting to wiretapping UN people? If they really had info they'd state it but refuse to answer how they got it. Somehow I doubt that UN officials and the people they might chat with will get the secure phones they need. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 10 Dec 2004 at 21:47, Joseph Ashwood wrote: > Wardriving is also basically dead. Sure there are a handful > of people that do it, but the number is so small as to be > irrelevant. I regularly use the internet through other people's unprotected wireless networks, simply for convenience

Half baked troll

2004-12-13 Thread R.W. (Bob) Erickson
The need for a coherent framework to hang our speculations on is obvious. The impossibility of any consensus based prototype is pure politics. We need a way out, and that way is to take a lesson from the theory of evolution. The lucky semantic construction is tested in practice by a virtual swarm

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 08:17:32AM -0600, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > This seems like a peculiarity of your location. Here in Austin almost > all of downtown is covered by free wireless. I wonder how much of it is deliberate. I run my AP open for any passerby, and expect similiar in return when I pas

Re: punkly current events

2004-12-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 9 Dec 2004 at 19:47, Joseph Ashwood wrote: > In short, except for those few people who have some use for > MixMaster, MixMaster was stillborn. As one of those few people who have had some use for Mixmaster, it does not seem stillborn to me. --digsig James A. Donald 6Y

commitment trust

2004-12-13 Thread R.W. (Bob) Erickson
from R. H Frank's "Passion within reason" to gain trust we show our commitment by doing hard work. In web's of trust, one way to add to new reputation would be to require each new node to perform an asymmetrically difficult task for more than one pre-existing node, on top of existing anti-faking

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 12:01 AM 12/13/04 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: Interestingly, I don't >know of anyone who still actively wardrives at random (as opposed to >against specific targets) for this same reason. I've met some people this year who war-fly SoCal: a cessna, laptop, and regular dipole suffices, and a GP

Re: punkly current events

2004-12-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald: > > The reason that taliban caught in Afghanistan, and people > > with the wrong accent caught in Afghanistan, tend to wind > > up in Guantanamo Bay is not because Afghan warlords are > > taking orders from US overlords, it is because Afghan > > warlords are fighting a holy

Re: Insurrectionist covers

2004-12-13 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Justin Guyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2004-12-11T08:10:27-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: > > [snip] > > This is what happens when one picks up ideas from people who present > them > > second-hand (or at even greater distances from their origin) and who > do > > not make proper footnotes.

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 11 Dec 2004 at 8:29, J.A. Terranson wrote: > Looking out of my fifth floor window I can connect to ~20 > 802.x nets *without* directional antennas or high powered > cards. With extra gear, I can hit almost 50, and in both > cases, roughly a third are completely open, another third are >

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread Ian Grigg
> It seems consistent that Al Qaeda prefers being 'fish in the sea' to > standing out by use of crypto. Also, given the depth and breadth of > conspiracies they believe in, it seems that they might see all us > cryptographers as a massive deception technique to get them to use bad > crypto. (And h

Re: Steve Thompson

2004-12-13 Thread Steve Thompson
--- "J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: > > > Out of nowhere cometh Steve Thompson, and sayeth he all manner of > > things. But, while his mouth moveth one way, he seemeth to move the > > other. > > > > > http://

RE: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 9 Dec 2004 at 16:15, J.A. Terranson wrote: > (3) The other camp believes that stego is a lab-only toy, > unsuitable for much of anything besides scaring the shit out > of the people in the Satan camp. I have used stego for practical purposes. The great advantage of stego is that it co

Re: punkly current events

2004-12-13 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, James A. Donald wrote: > If Afghanistan was subject to US jurisdiction, it would not > have a bumper opium crop. This assumes that the US wants the opium trade stopped. Be serious. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0xBD4A95BF Civilization is in a tailspin - ev

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Adam Shostack: > On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 10:24:09PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > | * R. A. Hettinga quotes a news article: > | > | > There have been numerous media reports in recent years that terrorist > | > groups, including al-Qaida, were using steganographic techniques. > | > | As far a

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread Justin
On 2004-12-11T06:48:41-0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > > At 09:47 PM 12/10/04 -0800, Joseph Ashwood wrote: > >Now we're back to the MixMaster argument. Mixmaster was meant to be a > >"Napster-level popular app" for emailing, but people just don't care > >about anonymity. > > Mixmaster is the m

To the Computer, You're Still Beautiful

2004-12-13 Thread R.A. Hettinga
The New York Times December 12, 2004 To the Computer, You're Still Beautiful By MATTHEW L. WALD UNATTRACTIVE passport photos, once merely traditional, may become mandatory. The reason is that co

Steve Thompson

2004-12-13 Thread Italy Anonymous Remailer
Out of nowhere cometh Steve Thompson, and sayeth he all manner of things. But, while his mouth moveth one way, he seemeth to move the other. http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=%22steve+thompson%22&start=0&hl=en&safe=off&; What hath suddenly attracted our AUK creep?

Re: punkly current events

2004-12-13 Thread Bill Stewart
At 02:29 PM 12/11/2004, James A. Donald wrote: If Afghanistan was subject to US jurisdiction, it would not have a bumper opium crop. If Saudi Arabia was subject to US jurisdiction, they would not be funding terrorism. [...] The reason that taliban caught in Afghanistan, and people with the wrong

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread Steve Thompson
--- "J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Bill Stewart wrote: > > > The more serious problem is what this means for computer evidence > > search and seizure procedures - the US has some official rules about > > "copy the disk and return the computer" that came out of

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread Bill Stewart
For instance, a seemingly innocent digital photo of a dog could be doctored to contain a picture of an explosive device or hidden wording. Of course, the _real_ message wasn't hidden in subtle stego bits - it was whether the picture was Bush's dog, Cheney's dog, or Blair's dog. It recommends inv

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* R. A. Hettinga quotes a news article: > There have been numerous media reports in recent years that terrorist > groups, including al-Qaida, were using steganographic techniques. As far as I know, these news stories can be tracked back to a particular USA Today story. There's also been a bunch

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Bill Stewart wrote: > The more serious problem is what this means for computer evidence > search and seizure procedures - the US has some official rules about > "copy the disk and return the computer" that came out of the Steve Jackson > case, not that they're always followed

Kazaa can't bar child pornographers, court told

2004-12-13 Thread R.A. Hettinga
Quadrafecta!!! Horse Number Four, Paedophilia, or "Pokey", to his friends... Only took 36 hours, true to his namesake... Or something. Cheers, RAH --- The Register Biting the hand that feeds IT The Register ยป Internet

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread Bill Stewart
At 10:08 AM 12/11/2004, J.A. Terranson wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Justin wrote: > Not necessarily. Mixmaster is trivial to use with Mutt. > > 1. Compile Mixmaster . You just made my case for me. Joe Sixpack will not wtf you are talking about. Hell, half the RedHat users won't know either ("

Re: Steve Thompson

2004-12-13 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: > Out of nowhere cometh Steve Thompson, and sayeth he all manner of > things. But, while his mouth moveth one way, he seemeth to move the > other. > > http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=%22steve+thompson%22&start=0&hl=e

RE: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > Psyops ain't just for the (overt) military you know... http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/editorial/10367781.htm Truth be told, lies are part of Pentagon strategy By JOSEPH L. GALLOWAY Knight Ridder Newspapers WASHINGTON - "The f

RE: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:47 PM 12/9/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: >Oh, general cluelessness doesn't suprise me. What suprises me is that the >writer of the original article seemed to believe that Stego was a new >development. The high-level pigs try to introduce this hysteria-generator periodically. The dumb typists

Re: punkly current events

2004-12-13 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Eugen Leitl wrote: > Can you use UDP broadcast on cable or xDSL? Completely provider dependent. For instance, I have SWB DSL as my work provider, and (AFAICT) am free to use whatever I want. My home cable connection prohibits any standard form of traceroute, but allows pin

Re: punkly current events

2004-12-13 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 06:39:13AM -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > I agree, with the additional constraint that mix functionality piggyback > with a more popular feature. Most folks won't install even the most > benign, easy to use mixer; but include a mix server in a jazzy > IM or next-gen n

Re: punkly current events

2004-12-13 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 10 Dec 2004 at 6:53, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > Name a place which is not subject to US juridiction? Ok, > Iran, N Kr, until we pull a regime change (tm) on them. Yeah, > they have a lot of 'net bandwidth, right. If Afghanistan was subject to US jurisdiction, it would not have a b

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Justin wrote: > Not necessarily. Mixmaster is trivial to use with Mutt. > > 1. Compile Mixmaster > 2. Put the binary in some directory somewhere. > 3. Configure Mutt with --with-mixmaster (sadly not enabled by default) > 4. add the line 'set mixmaster="/location/to/bin/mixm

Re: Mixmaster is dead, long live wardriving

2004-12-13 Thread cluesink
Major Variola (ret) wrote: Mixmaster is the most godawful complex thing to use, much less administer, around. Even Jack B Nymble is complex. It needs a simple luser interface and something to piggyback servers on. Mixminion is a little better, but needs more market penetration and still has no