Re: Giesecke & Devrient

2004-08-03 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:17 PM 8/2/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: >Assuming I generate a key on a RSA smart card made by G&D, what kind of >prestige >track do these people have? > >They seem to be pretty secretive, that's not a good sign. FWIW: They make the SIMs for T-Mobile (ie Deutsche Telecom AG) so they are part

Giesecke & Devrient

2004-08-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
Assuming I generate a key on a RSA smart card made by G&D, what kind of prestige track do these people have? They seem to be pretty secretive, that's not a good sign. -- Eugen* Leitl http://leitl.org";>leitl __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.6114

Re: Giesecke & Devrient

2004-08-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 03:57:02AM +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote: > Nothing you can't get from a pile of other vendors who will actually talk to > you. Unless you've got some business reason to deal with them, I wouldn't > bother (I have nothing against them per se, they just do business in a way >

Re: Giesecke & Devrient

2004-08-02 Thread Peter Gutmann
Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I have no smart card background, unfortunately. I've heard G&D ignores >requests from open source developer people, though. Yup. It's standard banking-industry stuff, unless you're a large bank/government/whatever and are prepared to sign over your firstb

Re: Giesecke & Devrient

2004-08-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 03:36:45AM +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote: > G&D produce (or help produce) things like banknotes and passports (and have > been doing so for more than a century), the secrecy comes with the territory. I have no smart card background, unfortunately. I've heard G&D ignores reque

Re: Giesecke & Devrient

2004-08-02 Thread Peter Gutmann
Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Assuming I generate a key on a RSA smart card made by G&D, what kind of >prestige track do these people have? > >They seem to be pretty secretive, that's not a good sign. G&D produce (or help produce) things like banknotes and passports (and have been doin