Re: I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine

2005-03-09 Thread James A. Donald
-- > > However, techniques that establish that the parties share a > > weak secret without leaking that secret have been around > > for years -- Bellovin and Merritt's DH-EKE, David Jablon's > > SPEKE. And they don't require either party to send the > > password itself at the end. > They a

Re: I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine

2005-03-09 Thread Kwai Chang Caine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-08 12:25 -0800]: > > > However, techniques that establish that the parties share a > > > weak secret without leaking that secret have been around > > > for years -- Bellovin and Merritt's DH-EKE, Dav

Re: I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine

2005-03-07 Thread Kwai Chang Caine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * "Whyte, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-03-03 22:24 -0500]: > I haven't read the original paper, and I have a great deal of > respect for Markus Jakobsson. However, techniques that establish > that the parties share a weak secret without leaking

RE: I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine

2005-03-04 Thread Whyte, William
y don't require either party to send the password itself at the end. William > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:30 AM > To: cryptography@metzdowd.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] &

Re: I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine

2005-03-03 Thread Jerrold Leichter
| >Briefly, it works like this: point A transmits an encrypted message to point | >B. Point B can decrypt this, if it knows the password. The decrypted text is | >then sent back to point A, which can verify the decryption, and confirm that | >point B really does know point A's password. Point A the

Re: I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine

2005-03-03 Thread Dan Kaminsky
>The description has virtually nothing to do with the actual algorithm >proposed. Follow the link in the article - http://www.stealth-attacks.info/ - >for an actual - if informal - description. > > There is no actual description publically available (there are three completely different proto

Re: I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine

2005-03-03 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Peter Gutmann wrote: > (Either this is a really bad idea or the details have been mangled by the > Register). No, it's just a really bad idea. A small group of us looked at this a few weeks ago when it was announced, and while none of us are professional cryptographers, we

Re: I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine

2005-02-24 Thread "Hal Finney"
Markus Jakobsson is a really smart guy who's done some cool stuff, so I think this is probably better than it sounds in the article. His web site is http://www.informatics.indiana.edu/markus/ but I don't see any papers there that sound like what the article describes. I tried to reverse engineer

Re: I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine

2005-02-23 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 24 Feb 2005 at 2:29, Peter Gutmann wrote: > Isn't this a Crypto 101 mutual authentication mechanism (or > at least a somewhat broken reinvention of such)? If the > exchange to prove knowledge of the PW has already been > performed, why does A need to send the PW to B in the last > step?

I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine

2005-02-23 Thread R.A. Hettinga
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/21/crypto_wireless/print.html> The Register Biting the hand that feeds IT The Register » Security » Identity » Original URL: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/21/crypto_wireless/ I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine By Lu

Re: I'll show you mine if you show me, er, mine

2005-02-23 Thread Peter Gutmann
"R.A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forwarded: >Briefly, it works like this: point A transmits an encrypted message to point >B. Point B can decrypt this, if it knows the password. The decrypted text is >then sent back to point A, which can verify the decryption, and confirm that >point B really d