Re: On Needing Killing (Orwell was an optimist)

2004-04-12 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 07:20 PM 4/11/04 +, Justin wrote: >Major Variola (ret) (2004-04-11 16:42Z) wrote: > >> Blacknet is a robust archive for words, immune to force >> (by State or private actors), but merely words. > >With all due respect to the principle of freedom of speech and all that, >I think that cypherpu

Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 12:58 PM -0700 4/11/04, Eric Cordian wrote: >So - what happened to Tim? Can I be the list's new Crusty Retired >Engineer now? Crusty retired pervert is more like it. ..and, no, I don't want to know what the crust is made of... :-/ Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Inter

Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread Tyler Durden
Eric Cordian wrote... "Can I be the list's new Crusty Retired Engineer now?" Why, did you retire recently? -TD From: Eric Cordian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: On Needing Killing Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Justin writes: > Wit

Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread Justin
Major Variola (ret) (2004-04-11 16:42Z) wrote: > Blacknet is a robust archive for words, immune to force > (by State or private actors), but merely words. With all due respect to the principle of freedom of speech and all that, I think that cypherpunks, and people in general, give far too little

Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread Eric Cordian
Justin writes: > With all due respect to the principle of freedom of speech and all that, > I think that cypherpunks, and people in general, give far too little > respect to words, as if words are a vague, unimportant, and remote link > in the chain of causation of acts or failure-to-acts. I don'

Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:38 AM 4/11/04 -0400, An Metet wrote: >> And the responsibles need killing. > >No, they don't. > >There are two alternative solutions to the problem of restrictions on >information flow, or more generally restrictions on any sort of voluntary >and cooperative activity. One is to use force to

On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread An Metet
Major Variola writes: > I don't know about your anecdote, but Mr. May's original point > was that the law *requires* companies to forget. Which is > of course an illegitimate intrusion of the state into private affairs. > > And the responsibles need killing. No, they don't. There are two altern

Re: On Needing Killing

2004-04-11 Thread Riad S. Wahby
An Metet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This stuff should be Cypherpunks 101. ..along with Assassination Politics. I've always taken "X needs killing" to be a statement to the effect that same had earned himself an AP-style contract, if only such a thing existed. While your point is good, inasmuch