At 03:57 PM 12/19/2002 -0500, Adam Shostack wrote:
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:56:12PM -0500, John Kelsey wrote:
| I think this would help, but I also think technology is driving a lot of
| this. You don't have to give a lot more information to stores today than
| you did twenty years ago for
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:49:28AM -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote:
| At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
| Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
| credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired membership card in
| the name Doe.
|
| Interesting point
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 01:21:52AM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
| At 03:57 PM 12/19/2002 -0500, Adam Shostack wrote:
| On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:56:12PM -0500, John Kelsey wrote:
| | I think this would help, but I also think technology is driving a lot of
| | this. You don't have to give a lot
At 12:58 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:49:28AM -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote:
| At 12:12 -0500 on 12/31/02, Adam Shostack wrote:
| Rummaging through my wallet...a grocery card in the name of Hughes, a
| credit card with the name Shostack, and an expired
At 09:49 AM 12/31/2002 -0800, Kevin Elliott wrote:
Interesting point on grocery cards... Why do they have your name at all?
Remember when people used checks and had check cashing cards
at grocery stores? Some grocery store chains used courtesy cards
to replace that function. More
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 04:56:12PM -0500, John Kelsey wrote:
| At 12:53 PM 12/15/02 -0500, Adam Shostack wrote:
| ...
| I think that a law which re-affirmed the rights to be anonymous, to
| call yourself what you will, to be left alone, to not carry or show ID
| would transform the debate about
At 12:53 PM 12/15/02 -0500, Adam Shostack wrote:
...
I think that a law which re-affirmed the rights to be anonymous, to
call yourself what you will, to be left alone, to not carry or show ID
would transform the debate about privacy into terms in which the issue
could be solved. (At least as it
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 12:22:30PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
| EPIC is in favor of using technologies to limit the information that
| people disclose. It is in favor of limiting law enforcement
[...]
| But EPIC sharply diverges with some cypherpunks over the question of
| what regulations
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 12:18:52AM +, David Wagner wrote:
Declan McCullagh wrote:
Also epic.org (not a cypherpunk-friendly organization,
but it does try to limit law enforcement surveillance) [...]
Is the cypherpunks movement truly so radicalized that it is
not willing to count even
