Re: Code name Killer Rabbit: New Sub Can Tap Undersea Cables

2005-02-23 Thread Tyler Durden
@metzdowd.com CC: osint@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Code name Killer Rabbit: New Sub Can Tap Undersea Cables Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:33:56 -0600 On Feb 18, 2005, at 19:47, R.A. Hettinga wrote: It does continue to be something of a puzzle as to how they get this stuff back to home

Re: Code name Killer Rabbit: New Sub Can Tap Undersea Cables

2005-02-23 Thread Martin Peck
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:01:05 -0500, Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Do you take a copy of EVERYTHING and send it back? That might have been more feasible in the old days, but when a single fiber can run 64 wavelength optically amplified 10 Gig traffic, I really really doubt it. Or

Re: Code name Killer Rabbit: New Sub Can Tap Undersea Cables

2005-02-23 Thread Tyler Durden
DWDM certainly makes it more complicated. Of course, that same technology allows them to send much more back. (Regarding the single OC-3 mentioned previously.) Well, DISTANCE makes it more complicated first of all. You need undersea repeaters and/or OFAs in order to get traffic from most parts

RE: Code name Killer Rabbit: New Sub Can Tap Undersea Cables

2005-02-22 Thread Tyler Durden
When I was in Telecom we audited pieces of an undersea NSA network that was based on OC-3 ATM. It had some odd components, however, including reflective-mode LiNBO3 modulators and even acousto-optic modulators. (Actually, one of the components started dying which put them into a

Re: Code name Killer Rabbit: New Sub Can Tap Undersea Cables

2005-02-22 Thread Matt Crawford
On Feb 18, 2005, at 19:47, R.A. Hettinga wrote: It does continue to be something of a puzzle as to how they get this stuff back to home base, said John Pike, a military expert at GlobalSecurity.org. I should think that in many cases, they can simply lease a fiber in the same cable. What could