RE: On how the NSA can be generations ahead

2004-08-04 Thread Sunder
Some interesting URL's on how this can be technologically achieved. These are just from various news sources, nothing indicating one way or another that the boys in Ft. Meade are using any of this stuff - though DARPA is mentioned in the first link. :)

RE: On how the NSA can be generations ahead

2004-08-03 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 05:23 PM 8/1/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: No, the NSA is probably generations ahead in some areas, but their fabs aren't much better than what's available commercially. Yes, upon consideration I agreed, re critical dimensions. That's why I brought up uneconomically sized chips, and the

you can't argue with economics (Re: On how the NSA can be generations ahead)

2004-08-02 Thread Adam Back
But most cryptanalysis types of things are economic defenses. (ie you can spend $lots you can break; or you don't have enough $ to build because the $ at current tech is an astronomical multiple of the US national debt). So if the NSA are being stupid, and uneconomical with the black budget (and

Re: On how the NSA can be generations ahead

2004-08-01 Thread Eric Murray
On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 10:20:38AM -0500, J.A. Terranson wrote: On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Tyler D asked about how the NSA could be so far ahead. Besides their ability to make 2 sq. chips at 10% yield (not something a commercial entity could get away with) What,

RE: On how the NSA can be generations ahead

2004-08-01 Thread Tyler Durden
Well, there's no doubt that what Variola says is basically correct. But it doesn't exactly apply to the specific situation I was referring to, which was whether something inconspicuous might be slipped into a CO unbeknownst to the rank-and-file (ie, the CO manager would probably receive some