> If they do it under threat, then it is not "voluntary".
>
> They may have come here voluntarily, but that was probably due to the
> false advertising that "America is a Land of Opportunity(tm)" and other
> such rot that our country has used to sucker people to come here.
Oh please. So the street
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 22:20, bgt wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 10:48, cubic-dog wrote:
> > in force, because, we finally get slave, indentured servants who
> > will either take the 90 cents and hour or be deported.
>
> This kind of rhetoric is extremely irritating. If they can
> be deported, th
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, bgt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 00:20, bgt wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 10:48, cubic-dog wrote:
> > > > in force, because, we finally get slave, indentured servants who
> > > > will either take the 90 cents and hour or be deported.
> > >
> > > This kind of rhetori
> On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 00:20, bgt wrote:
> > On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 10:48, cubic-dog wrote:
> > > in force, because, we finally get slave, indentured servants who
> > > will either take the 90 cents and hour or be deported.
> >
> > This kind of rhetoric is extremely irritating. If they can
> > b
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 14:15, cubic-dog wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, bgt wrote:
> > ... Anyway... "be productive or be deported" does not constitute
>
> I don't think I said that, you put it in quotes, implying I did.
> It's an okay paraphrase though, so we'll take it like that.
Yes, it was inten
Aargh, damn computer... I apologize for my incomplete post.
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 00:20, bgt wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 10:48, cubic-dog wrote:
> > in force, because, we finally get slave, indentured servants who
> > will either take the 90 cents and hour or be deported.
>
> This kind of r
On Jan 14, 2004, at 3:51 PM, bgt wrote:
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 14:15, cubic-dog wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, bgt wrote:
... Anyway... "be productive or be deported" does not constitute
I don't think I said that, you put it in quotes, implying I did.
It's an okay paraphrase though, so we'll take it l
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 10:48, cubic-dog wrote:
> in force, because, we finally get slave, indentured servants who
> will either take the 90 cents and hour or be deported.
This kind of rhetoric is extremely irritating. If they can
be deported, they are neither slaves or indentured servants.
If t
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tim May wrote:
> On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:51 AM, Tyler Durden wrote:
> > I'll tell you a story.
> >
> > Back in the late 1980s I taught at a notorious HS in Bedford
> >snip
>snip
>
> Second, we are fast-moving toward a society and economy where only
> those who _wanted_ to study
At 11:51 AM 1/1/04 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
>"Stay In School!"
>
>In other words, schools keep the crime rates down, as is a well-known
>statistic. They are basically storage facilities. For real schools we
white
>folks with $$$ can move out to the suburbs or send our kids to private
>school.
Ri
On Jan 2, 2004, at 12:03 AM, Tim May wrote:
So Kennedy's liberals scratched their heads and came up with a new
plan. "Relief" would be converted to a series of state and national
programs, no longer handled locally. And the bad connotations of
"relief" would be changed by the new and positive n
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:20 PM, J.A. Terranson wrote:
Tim May wrote...
In conclusion, your Bedford-Stuy student who doesn't see the point to
studying math will never be a math researcher, or a physicist, or a
chemist, or anything else of that sort. So no point in trying to
convince
him to study his
At 12:14 AM 1/1/04 -0800, Eric Cordian wrote:
>Of
>course, they still need one to determine who gets the shit-hauling
jobs,
>and the usual method of doing this is to hide the class system in the
>education system. Now you don't get the shit-hauling job because you
are
>an untouchable. You get it
"J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why the BedSty student Tim?
Uhh, read more carefully. He was responding to a specific point from
Tyler Durden.
> You have some incredible moments of lucidity and insight, and occasionally,
> we are the lucky recipients of these fleeting events - but
On Jan 1, 2004, at 7:44 PM, Thomas Shaddack wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tim May wrote:
A few moments of thought will show the connection between replicators
and general assemblers. A general assembler can make another general
assembler, hence all general assemblers are replicators. And in fact
th
> Tim May wrote...
> >In conclusion, your Bedford-Stuy student who doesn't see the point to
> >studying math will never be a math researcher, or a physicist, or a
> >chemist, or anything else of that sort. So no point in trying to convince
> >him to study his math.
Why the BedSty student Tim?
T
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tim May wrote:
> A few moments of thought will show the connection between replicators
> and general assemblers. A general assembler can make another general
> assembler, hence all general assemblers are replicators. And in fact
> this is necessary to make mechanosynthesis nan
On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:51 AM, Tyler Durden wrote:
I'll tell you a story.
Back in the late 1980s I taught at a notorious HS in Bedford
Stuyvesant. 90% of my students were black. I regarded few of them as
stupid, but almost none of them saw the point of studying math...they
just didn't see how it c
I'll comment on the sociology after commenting on the physics:
(actually, looking over your sociology, I see it's just more of the
liberal whine and sleaze, so I won't bother commenting on it again)
On Jan 1, 2004, at 6:34 PM, Tyler Durden wrote:
Tim May wrote...
Then your education in physics
Well I be darned if Mr May hasn't inspired a major burst of eloquence,
between this response and Mr Young's.
As for this comment:
"Schools don't educate, but merely serve as a filter for employers to
locate those individuals who aren't going to make trouble at the factory."
At best. In the inner
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Tyler Durden wrote:
> As you can probably tell, I've never read many secondary or tertiary
> sources.
I have a very hard time believeing that anyone would consider VN a
"secondary" or "tertiary" source.
> (ie, as a physicist I've always considered it of dubious usefulness
On Jan 1, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Tyler Durden wrote:
Tim May wrote...
First, please stop including the full text of the message you are
replying to. Learn to use an editor, whether you ultimately top-post
or bottom-post to edited fragments.
I actually do this for a reason. If I'm not doing a line
Tim May wrote...
First, please stop including the full text of the message you are replying
to. Learn to use an editor, whether you ultimately top-post or bottom-post
to edited fragments.
I actually do this for a reason. If I'm not doing a line-by-line response
(or sometimes even if I am), I
Tim May wrote...
"Because the Jews and negroes have demanded that all students be taught
stuff they obviously will never use. Most inner city mutants should be
taught practical skills, not abstract stuff their previous education has
been bereft of."
Well, I don't know who's responsible, but te
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, Eric Cordian wrote:
> In the real world, a society can not consist 100% of chip designers. It
> also requires cooks, toilet and floor scrubbers, and people who lug
> concrete in wheelbarrows up stairs.
Sure, those are still needed. Though I wouldn't be so sure that toilet and
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