RE: attack on rfc3211 mode (Re: disk encryption modes)

2002-05-27 Thread Lucky Green
Peter wrote: > Yup. Actually the no-stored-IV encryption was never designed > to be a non- malleable cipher mode, the design goal was to > allow encryption-with-IV without having to explicitly store > an IV. For PWRI it has the additional nice feature of > avoiding collisions when you use a

Re: attack on rfc3211 mode (Re: disk encryption modes)

2002-05-10 Thread Adam Shostack
On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 04:01:11AM +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote: | General rant: It's amazing that there doesn't seem to be any published research | on such a fundamental crypto mechanism, with the result that everyone has to | invent their own way of doing it, usually badly. We don't even have

Re: attack on rfc3211 mode (Re: disk encryption modes)

2002-05-10 Thread Peter Gutmann
Adam Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I can see that, but the security of CBC MAC relies on the secrecy of the >ciphertexts leading up to the last block. In the case of the mode you >describe in RFC3211, the ciphertexts are not revealed directly but they are >protected under a mode which has th